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Old 05-25-2016, 02:00 PM   #1
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New Guy & Latest Range Results with Black Betty (bam-ba-lam)

I got to try out my "Red Dawn" targets (ver. 2.0) yesterday. I was shooting ZQI, and PPU ammunition out of my Century Arms C308 rifle at 50 yards off of a table rest, using the iron sights. The silhouettes are approximately life-size, and that is a dime in the photos.
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Continued

Here's a few photos from 75 (I forgot to take a "dime at that distance" photo) & 100 yds.

FYI - The "head" target is only 10.5" tall and 9" across at the helmet.
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r-jniga, as boorish as I can be, why discuss distances that most folks can toss rocks at?????

Could you bother to clarify what Marksmanship Qualifications you have at distances over 912 Meters???????

Otherwise, thanks for your participation. JMHO.
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r-jniga, as boorish as I can be, why discuss distances that most folks can toss rocks at?????

Could you bother to clarify what Marksmanship Qualifications you have at distances over 912 Meters???????

Otherwise, thanks for your participation. JMHO.
Ok, I am a new guy here, soooo... in the words of Sheldon Cooper: "Is that sarcasm?"
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Don't run off the FNG; his sig line has one of my favorite movie quotes.
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r-jniga, as boorish as I can be, why discuss distances that most folks can toss rocks at????? .
Because those are the distances that most gunfights actually occur. And they are usually over in 10 to 15 seconds.
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M118LR,

Have you ever zeroed a rifle on the 1000 inch range?

FYI, the vast majority of firefights that MPs & other combat support/combat service support troops engage in are "within hand grenade throwing" range, short & very violent/bloody.

That's why I nearly always armed myself with a 7-shot Ithaca Model 37 pump-gun & loaded with 00 buckshot AND that's why I believe that such CS/CSS troops would be better armed with a SMG.

yours, sw

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Don't run off the FNG; his sig line has one of my favorite movie quotes.
That's about the only Cruise movie I like and mainly because of Foxx.
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AND that's why I believe that such CS/CSS troops would be better armed with a SMG.

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When I was in Germany in '97 the Vopos traveled in groups of 3. The outer two were armed with SMGs.
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wtf is this ?- INCHES??/- this is a real men's forum where the ONLY ACCEPTABLE measurement is YARDS, or possibly METERS if you're not from America- even at pistol distances, it's still YARDS.
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My range time these days is 100-170yds(friends house w/berm).When I belong to a club most was 100yds with the M1a getting a 1-2" MOA depending on skill set that day.This range shooting here seems all appropriate for practice and getting the feel of a new weapon.

Oh and how do you feel about that rifle?You hear good and bad talk about Century.

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Old 05-26-2016, 07:26 AM   #12
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considering the battle zero for an m1a/m14 is 200 yards/meters, i'd say not
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considering the battle zero for an m1a/m14 is 200 yards/meters, i'd say not
A little hot under the collar this morning are we...I like being called a liar.
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i'm just quoting the manual
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i'm just quoting the manual
Let me apologize for using the wrong terminology @100yds I will get anywhere from a 1-2" grouping
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My range time these days is 100-170yds....
The max distance of the nearby state DNR range in the photos above is 100 yds. The Sheriff's range is also open for rifles once a month, and technically you could shoot at 200 yds there. (The target stands are stationary, and there are concrete firing lines at 3, 7, 15, 25, 50, and 100 yds. Then, off to the side of the range office, there is a path going back into the woods to the 200 yd distance.) I asked the Range Officer if people were allowed to shoot past 100 yds, and his response was "Umm, maybe." And, I also have a friend with a 200 yd set-up, but I haven't tried to shoot from it yet (I think he needs to repair the backstop).

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Oh and how do you feel about that rifle?You hear good and bad talk about Century.
So far, I am really enjoying it. I had one FTF on my first trip to the range; none since (in hindsight I bet the mag wasn't fully inserted). I also had one partial jam on the final soft-point round when using the 5-round mag. Here's how I summarized my initial purchase decision: "A semi-automatic battlerifle, chambered in .308/7.62, that takes $3.00 surplus 20-round mags, for $600.00?! Sign me up!"
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I like the .308 and yeah that price sounds good for what I have seen at some gun shows.You ever want a fun 22LR to shoot get the little STG 44 clone one can really off load a 25rd mag fast.
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you've just barely scratched the surface as to what the m1a/m14 series can do- first thing is to STOP USING FACTORY AMMO- and junk at that- - what you want to do is look up a fellow on the internet by the name of ZEDIKER- he used to shoot with the army marksman team and lists his favorite loads- the 150 grain pills were left over pills from the garand and the m60/m1919a4-a6- you need 165s to really make it shine out to 600, and a special dished gas plug and 173's to make it to 1000- while you're at it, take out a rivet in the sling swivel and use a t-nut and sling swivel stud and mount a harris bipod to it- I've built 7 of these things 3 real m14s and 4 Chinese- I use an arms 18 scope mount and typically a 4-12 x40 scope- sure it weighs about 12-14 pounds all up, but you also get dmr accuracy-not quite a sniper, but damned close- if I absolutely have to , i'll use WINCHESTER 165s spire point//168 or match ammo- there's your 20second lesson on the m1a- oh and print yourself up targets off the internet- all you need out to 3oo is an 8.5x11 with a cross on it once you have your zer0- no need to wasting money

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I use to think T-Star I wanted to get better than that with iron sights but that was when I use to shoot 3-4 days a week,life is not so kind anymore.I reload using IMR4895 43.5g w/150g anymore but I still have some 168's out there loaded w/IMR4064 I might of been using on the BM59 I had.That 1-2" (5rds)group I always had a flier that pushed it to 1.5-2" even with that the hunters were amazed I could do that with open sights. They were trying to scope in there rifles and I just knew were mine would shoot.

Thks found it http://www.zediker.com/downloads/14_loading.pdf

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