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Old 07-20-2005, 04:58 PM   #1
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Norinco 84s or NHM90 in 5.56x45mm?

I have a Norinco AK variant chambered in 5.56x45mm. It does not have any kind of flash supressor, just a weld on muzzle. It appears that the bayo lug has been sawed off. "NHM90" has been hand carved next to serial number. Also "CSI CNT CA" and "Made in China" are visable. Was this rifle caught in the Klinton ban? Is it really an 84s, 86s, or a NHM90? It also will slam fire every now and then. Thanks for the replies.
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Old 07-20-2005, 07:46 PM   #2
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All of the NHM series weapons that I've seen were chambered in 7.62x39. I own an NHM-91.

I had seen some Type 56 rifles that were chambered in 5.56x45 about two desades ago. They were made by Norinco.
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Old 07-21-2005, 03:40 PM   #3
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the NHM-90 guns were guns caught either in the water or on the docks just after the ban, they had to have the evil features removed. It is not uncommon to find these with the preban model number ground off or xxx-ed out. some had the muzzle nuts place and welded, others just placed. the nhm's came in both 223 and 7.62. one interesting thing is they removed the standard baynet lug by grinding down the gas block but did not touch the front sight which can accept a pig-sticker style bayonet. the one problem I have seen with the 223 guns by norinco it a tendency to slam fire...my 84-s did this until I replaced the firing pin spring with a more stiff one. My nhm-90 in 223 did not have this problem...magazines can be tough to find but are tough and should last well, I dd find some here in salt lake for $30 each not too long ago...these are great guns and I don't ever plan to sell mine!
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:19 PM   #4
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Where did you get the 84s firing pin spring. Does it have to be an 84s or 5.56mm or will any AK spring fit and work?
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:27 PM   #5
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i stretched the one out, then added a ball point pen spring, it worked!

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Old 07-21-2005, 05:00 PM   #6
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the NHM-90 guns were guns caught either in the water or on the docks just after the ban, they had to have the evil features removed. It is not uncommon to find these with the preban model number ground off or xxx-ed out. some had the muzzle nuts place and welded, others just placed. the nhm's came in both 223 and 7.62. one interesting thing is they removed the standard baynet lug by grinding down the gas block but did not touch the front sight which can accept a pig-sticker style bayonet. the one problem I have seen with the 223 guns by norinco it a tendency to slam fire...my 84-s did this until I replaced the firing pin spring with a more stiff one. My nhm-90 in 223 did not have this problem...magazines can be tough to find but are tough and should last well, I dd find some here in salt lake for $30 each not too long ago...these are great guns and I don't ever plan to sell mine!
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Old 08-25-2005, 05:29 PM   #7
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All of the NHM series weapons that I've seen were chambered in 7.62x39. I own an NHM-91.

I had seen some Type 56 rifles that were chambered in 5.56x45 about two desades ago. They were made by Norinco.

I have one of those Type 56 5.56 rifles. What a hoot to shoot.
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Old 08-26-2005, 05:52 AM   #8
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The NHM series of rifles all came with longer barrels, and the bipod. The Mak 90 series also utilized the welded nut in lieu of the flash supressor, the thumb-hole stock, and the ground off bayonet lug.

I have seen a number of Mak-90 rifles chambered in 5.56x45.

Late NHM series rifles also had a rivet installed in the rear of the mag well. The magazines were milled, with a slot, to allow use in the modified receiver. They were five round mags. To use a 30 rounder, you had to mill the slot into the back mounting point.

Fortunately, the rivet would, over time, loosen and fail. This meant that 30 round mags could again be used, and you weren't guilty of "modification" to the receiver.
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actually not all nhm guns were long barrel guns, I have owned an NHM-91 which were as described and also owned a NHM-90 which was a pre-ban gun, overstamped with the NHM-90 and then the evil features were removed. The one thing I have seen with the 223 transition guns is that the pigsticker bayonet lug is consistantly missed. this you have the threaded barrel (welded or not, have seen both), and then the front sight with the pig sticker lug
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Interesting, thanks for the info. Did your NHM-91 have the modified mag well, and magazines?
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Old 08-28-2005, 11:10 AM   #11
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I don't remember seeing a place for a rivet, I bought the gun used, it would accept all hi cap mags and sold it last year, can't help you with that observation
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