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Old 04-15-2010, 04:35 AM   #1
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"Cheap" Double Rifles at Cabelas

I've always wanted a double rifle, but the prices have always (to me, at least) been prohibitive.

I was just browsing the on-line "Gun Room" at the Cabela's website, and saw that they're advertising Sabbati double rifles in .45/70 and 9.3x74R for under $3k.

That's downright cheap for an SxS double rifle . . . does anyone know anything about them? Quality? Are they just built on shotgun actions? $3k I could afford . . . but not if the rifle is a junker. Price seems almost too good to be true . . .

I know these rounds (.45/70 and 9.3x74R) aren't really suitable for elephant and such, whough some people have used the latter . . . but that's stretching it.

But since the chances that I'll get back to Africa again - much less to shoot a jumbo - are somewhere between "slim" and "none" - either of these rounds would be fine for any domestic hunting I'm likely to do.
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Old 04-15-2010, 05:45 AM   #2
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Re: "Cheap" Double Rifles at Cabelas

A friend of mine has a Pedersoli double 45-70 that is gorgeous and I lust over it, but he kindly lets me shoot it.

As far as elephants go I once shot some of Garrett Cartridges .45-70 ammo that stopped me...
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:57 PM   #3
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Re: "Cheap" Double Rifles at Cabelas

9.3x74 is pretty much the same as a .375 H&H and would probably reveal any flaws in the weapon in short order. However, it's not what I'd be looking for in a double. Someone was peddling doubles in .30-40 and .45-70 at one time at extremely nice prices, but I never had the yen for one in either caliber.
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Old 04-18-2010, 07:30 PM   #4
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Re: "Cheap" Double Rifles at Cabelas

I bet the 30-40 would be neat. I was really looking forward to Remington's .45-70 in their Spartan line. It was cataloged but I don't think they actually made any.
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Old 04-19-2010, 06:58 AM   #5
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Re: "Cheap" Double Rifles at Cabelas

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9.3x74 is pretty much the same as a .375 H&H and would probably reveal any flaws in the weapon in short order. However, it's not what I'd be looking for in a double.
A 286 grain slug @2360 is a bit below .375 H&H, and more on a par with the flanged version . . . energy at the muzzle is only about 3500 ft. lbs. Nothing to sneer at, fine for MOST game, but you're right, it's lighter than what most folks think of when they hear "double rifle."

Further reading suggests Cabela's got a shipment of Sabbati rifles in larger cartridges like .470, .450, and .450/400 a while back . . . if not built too heavy (and if the price wasn't up too sharply) the .450/400 would, on paper, make a dandy rifle - a 400 grain slug at 2150 for 4100 ft-lbs will (according to people like "Pondoro" Taylor) do for anything so long as you place your shots well, and it will do so with modest recoil.

Quality, reliability, and how well the rifle fits me would be determining factors on whether or not I'd actually spend the $$$.
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Old 05-27-2010, 08:53 AM   #6
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Re: "Cheap" Double Rifles at Cabelas

Looked at one of the Sabatti rifles at Cabela's, this one in .45/70.

* Seemed nicely made, very light (compared to the big doubles in the rack). Would be nice to carry in woodland for deer, pigs, black bear, etc.
* Balance was very good.
* Very stiff and hard to open, compared to the other doubles (which admittedly cost 3 - 8 times as much). Maybe it needed oil, or to wear in a little.
* Didn't like the sights - single fiber optic bead front, two fiber optics at the rear. Less visible than you'd think.
* Also the rear sight ought to have been a little further forward
* Extractor, not ejector. (Preferences vary, but this is a deal killer for me.) Rather than at the bottom of the chambers, the extractor claws were located mostly between the two barrels.
* Sales clerk said he "thought" it was regulated with Hornady ammo. Matters of regulation aside, the clerk had no idea if it was even safe to shoot with hot factory ammo like Garrett.

Despite my criticisms it's a pretty decent double rifle at that price point, but like some of the recent offerings from other companies (say, S&W), it's a gun they almost got right.
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Re: "Cheap" Double Rifles at Cabelas

I'm not shooting elephants either, but have always wanted an "elephant caliber." Picked up a Ruger No. 1 in .458 Win. Mag. Load it w/ 4895 and 500 gr. Speer, just so I can shoot the biggest caliber at the range most days. The Farquaharson falling block is classic, the gun is nicely set out, and Ruger backs it. WAY less than $3 K. And the elephants here are hiding!

Seems like a "Double" in 45/70 is a bit under gunned. I'm not familiar with the other chambering, but if you're going to spend $3 K on a "double" you should get one in a "double" caliber.
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