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Old 10-15-2004, 01:51 PM   #1
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1917 Enfield

Well, Folks I got me one!...My 1917 Enfield arrived fromt he CMP, and she is a bute!

the serial number is 925,000 range and the metal is in excellent shape! the wood has the character dings and scratches, but she is a bute...If I didn't already say that....

I have a question though, I am a learning person in this area...The make of this rifle is "Eddystone" U.S. Model 1917. Does anyone have any knowledge on the make of this weapon???

I am just about complete in a series of US battle rifles, I have the S/A M-1a and H&R Garand as well as the S/A O3 and the Smith and Corona O3A3, I also have the (inland) M-1 Carbine and a RRA LAR15..... Now I just need to find a Thompson.
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Old 10-15-2004, 02:19 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum WPD80 . I know very little about the 1917 but here it comes anyway The 1917 is America's retooling of the pattern 14 Enfield that were to be sold to England before things got real ugly for the Brits in that era. The US redesigned it so it would run with 3006 ammo and used it I think due to a need of rifles for our troops .
Eddystone was a arsenal that I think was run with the help of Remington in the state of New York . I may be wrong on that but thats what I'm digging out of memory (old) You may someday run across the same model made by Remington or Winchester as well .

Once upon a time I had a P-14 rifle and with cast bullets it shot very well , ball ammo wasn't so great because of bore dimensions .

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Old 10-15-2004, 04:26 PM   #3
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Jack is right - Eddystone was affiliated with Remington and was one of three manufacturers - Winchester and Remington being the other two. About 1.2 million Eddystone M1917s were made and roughtly the same amount were made totally by the other two. Approximately 3/4 of US soldiers in WWI carried the M1917. It was put in war reserve after the war and hundreds of thousands were sold or Lend Leased to England and China. Large numbers were sold to the Philippine Army and they used it in the early days of WWII. Many also saw use as training rifles by the US and a few were taken overseas, mostly by service units.
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Old 10-15-2004, 05:40 PM   #4
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1917

CMP's site says the 1917 is rough. are you saying that yours came out just fine? Is it going to require a lot of work to make it presentable or just serviceable? I am just curious. I have a 1917 I bought in the 1980's, but was thinking of selling it for a profit and buying a CMP one for keepsakes.
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Old 10-15-2004, 06:46 PM   #5
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1917 and WWI

Be advised that it was the 17 that Seargent Alvin York used not the 03 as in the movie.
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Old 10-16-2004, 04:25 AM   #6
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Yeah, mine came out fine, there is some dings in the wood, but the metal is awesome...I have a friend whom got a M-1 Garand from the CMP, and there Garand was no better condition than my p-17....I plan on shooting mine, I have a bunch of 30/06 surplus ammo, (NON CORROSIVE) that I purchased for my H&R Garand (all matching)....

is the Eddystone worth any more than the Remington?????

I feel Lucky on this one....
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Old 10-16-2004, 05:12 AM   #7
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Eddystone Pennsylvania. Old locomotive factory bought by Remington in order to meet production demands. I've got two. GREAT rifles. Only thing I don't like is the c_ock on closing, inherent stickiness of the '17 bolt (hard to cycle from the shoulder like my No.4 Enfield), and the inability to adjust for windage. Still the sights are wonderful, and this rifle was definitly built for war.
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Old 10-16-2004, 01:26 PM   #8
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I don't think the value of an Eddystone would be more than the others due to the production numbers . I may be all wet on that but at least with other rifles it seems like the least available one costs the most .

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As a rule, a Winchester is worth the most, a Remington a distant second and the Eddystone last. Assuming all three in equal condition, of course.
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Old 10-16-2004, 04:00 PM   #10
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That's all fairly true. When I selected my two Eddystones it was out of a bunch of about 8 M1917s that had come from a VFW post to one of my local dealers. They were all being sold for the same amount and I just picked the two that looked the best (they all were in pretty excellent shape). Both were 10/18 barrel dates, and were Parkerized. Passed up a Remington 'cause it was blued (I'm partial to Parkerizing), and the Winchester 'cause it wasn't in quite as good shape.
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Old 10-19-2004, 05:30 PM   #11
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how good was the barrell of the 1917 you got from CMP?
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Old 10-20-2004, 09:02 AM   #12
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1917 barrel

The bore is in excellent, and the barrel is likewise...I am impressed with the way this one looks....

I would post pics, however I don't own a digital as of yet.

Over all condition I would say the rifle came was very good to excellent...I have shown it to some local dealers and they also agreed with me on the condition....

Luck of the draw??? I don't know.....

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Old 10-20-2004, 03:30 PM   #13
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Considering that most CMP M1917s of recent sale have come with very questionable bores, I think you did just fine!
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