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Old 11-29-2005, 11:21 AM   #1
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All Around Rifle for North America

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My first "gun book / magazine" was a one off publication from Petersen's Guns & Ammo called "All Around Rifles." The publication was based on the premise of a single rifle for all North American hunting, primarily of big game. Calibers from .243 Win to .375 H&H were discussed and each writer took a stab at making his case for his pet caliber. So I'll pose the question to you...If you had to use one rifle for all North American game hunting, what would you choose?

You could cheat and get a T/C Encore and have all the cartridges you want. But if I were limited to just one hunting rifle, I'd take a pre-64 Model 70 Featherweight in .270 Winchester. I'd top it off with Leupold fixed 4x scope, Allen cartridge carrier that slips over teh stock and a good leather sling. For 90% of anything I'd be hunting, I'd be happy with Federal 130 grain ammo. For the biggies, I'd go for a premium 150 grain bullet and I'd be fine.

What about you?
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:59 AM   #2
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35 whelen

if brown bear are in order, 375 H&H.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:26 PM   #3
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One rifle? Easy, the Win M70 LH .30-06. While I like the .270* and the .308 Win, neither has the variety of factory loads you can find in any backwater store. I've topped mine with a Leupold 3x9 Vari X II and added a sling.


*That's what I took my buck with this year. Used a .308 last year for doe harvesting.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:30 PM   #4
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I am trying to set my Polytech M14 (.30 up to be a good theoretical "all around rifle."

A strong case could be made for almost any bolt action .30-06. The only thing of that kind I own is an 03A4 Springfield.
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Old 11-29-2005, 01:00 PM   #5
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Winchester Model 70-30/06. I've reloaded 110gr to 200gr bullets with good enough accuracy.
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Old 11-29-2005, 04:24 PM   #6
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Third for the M70 in .30-06.

I've hunted Africa, Europe and Canada. Love the '06...
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Old 11-29-2005, 07:41 PM   #7
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Make that #4 for the Model 70 in .30-06...

One rifle, and one rifle ONLY--the venerable '06 with all its many
loadings make it the most versatile hunting weapon for all North
American big game. Most of the old-timers around here have sworn by it all of their lives. That says it all for me.

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Old 11-29-2005, 11:26 PM   #8
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again, the pre-64 Winnie in 30.06
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:04 AM   #9
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I'm not sure, but I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:26 AM   #10
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Going to break the pattern--The last gun I would sell etc and one that could be used for anything is my Rem 760 pump in 30-06. That is my go-to gun when I must kill something. I have a assortment of Tang safety Ruger M77's which I use and other makes. But hands down the old 30-06 Rem 760 is it for me.
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:03 AM   #11
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Small correction - mine is a Classic Stainless, HS Precision stock, Lepold 2.5x8 in QD rings and base.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:54 AM   #12
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well i'm going to break the cycle- 338 win mag- but i bigger critters than most to deal with
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Old 12-04-2005, 01:12 PM   #13
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I'll go with the .30-06 as well 'cause I doubt you can do better for an all around cartridge. I certainly have no problem with a pre '64 Winchester but my bullet launcher of choice is the "pre Garcia" L61R Sako.

If one were going on a yearlong hunting sabatical throughout the lower 48, a Rem 700 would probably be a better choice. The availability of replacement parts and gunsmith services might become an issue, and a universally familiar platform might prove an advantage.
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Old 12-04-2005, 02:38 PM   #14
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I certainly have no problem with a pre '64 Winchester but my bullet launcher of choice is the "pre Garcia" L61R Sako.
My Finnbear's (.30-06) are not "Pre Garcia" but they're the same L61R actions. I've never understood why the Garcia and Stoger era Sako's are by implication less desirable.

It's true that Remington 700's are more common than Sako's but what parts could really break on a bolt action Sako? I've fired a couple thousand rounds in all of my Sako's and have had an extractor come pull off the bolt one time. The gunsmith didn't even charge me for reinstalling it.
 
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My Finnbear's (.30-06) are not "Pre Garcia" but they're the same L61R actions. I've never understood why the Garcia and Stoger era Sako's are by implication less desirable.
The pre '72 rifles have an additional lug which is probably only a theoretical advantage. The post '72s are certainly strong enough for any cartridge that can be chambered the L61R action.

The metal finish on the pre '72s and the bofors steel barrels are selling points too. Truth be told, the wood on the "pre Garcia" guns tends to be uninspiring (at best).

Over on the Sako Collector's board, there are Sako afficionados who prefer the A-series Sakos. I can't scratch their knowledge (let alone argue with it) but I just go with what I like. I like mine a lot. With the Kahles 2.2-10x 40mm scope, it's a nice rig.
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Well, no surprises here, the .30-06 is the stand up winner, and for good reason. IMHO theres exists no rifle cartridge that is more capable or more versatile. I have a .30-06, but I really like shooting the .270 much better as there is a marked difference in recoil (at least to me). Anything I'm likely to do with a .30-06, I can do with a .270 and ammo for the .270 is extremely common.

Everyone went for a turnbolt with the exception of Divernhunter, who went for the pump action Remington. Not a bad choice, I've always thought the pump action Remingtons were some of the most accurate and underrated rifles there are.
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Old 12-05-2005, 06:52 AM   #17
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The .270 is a fine choice and, in 150 gr. flavor, arguably superior to the '06 due to it's higher SD. Where the '06 shines is in the heavier bullet loadings. There are many experience--and highly ethical--hunters who wouldn't hesitate to take a moose with a .270. However, if I saw a big bull trotting through the woods, with a small automobile snagged in his antlers, I'd feel more confident with a 180 gr. load, or even a premium 200 or 220.

Lots of brown/grizzly bears get taken with the '06 but I'd go with the .375 H&H. You can do what you want.
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well i'm going to break the cycle- 338 win mag- but i bigger critters than most to deal with
- who said anything about a bolt- my 338 's a BAR
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If I were to add another cartridge to my existing collection it would be .270 Winchester. .270 shoots flatter at realistic hunting ranges, has lighter recoil and can easily kill most all game in North America.
I went with .30-06 because it can push heavier bullets.
 
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I go with the M-70 Winchester but in a different cal. I have the Pre-64 type action with a 26" barrel in Classic Stainless in 300 Remington Ultra Magnum. (That thing is tough) With a 4-12 Leupold 'scope. I can take enough powder out of the case to slow it down to 30/06 velocity or dump enough powder in to make it "super sonic" for anything I might encounter...
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