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Old 03-29-2007, 05:33 PM   #1
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FA 40 cupronickel bullets-ball ammo

A friend showed me some FA 40 30-06 nonmagnetic ball I assume, with a cupronickel coating /jacket.I was under the impression cupronickel was phased out much earlier?No response on WR,dumb question?Cupronickel is the one that appears to be nickel plated correct?
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Old 03-29-2007, 06:02 PM   #2
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Yeah, the cupro-nickel (CN) bullets should not appear in regular issue M1 FA 40 ammo. Do you have a photo of the cartridge? Is the full headstamp, FA 40. Standard brass case? Primer crimped in?

My guess is that it's a short range loading with a 150 grain bullet. When the M1 bullet (174 grains) was first used it was discovered that it's range was much longer than the old Cal 30 M1906 ammunition and it created a safety hazard when used on the old rifle ranges. So a big lot of "short range" ammunition was loaded up with a 150 grain bullet. To identify it the bullet was given a stannic stain. It looks like cupro-nickel but is actually gilding metal. It should have a more "silvery" or "blue" tint to it.

A lot of these cartridges were loaded between 1936 and 1940 so they are not particularly rare but they are not common either.

In 1940 the M2 cartridge with a 150 grain bullet was adopted and there was no further need for the stannic stained rounds.

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Old 03-29-2007, 06:36 PM   #3
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FA 40 '06'

Yes its definetly a original military loaded cartridge and upon closer inspection where the silvery coating appears to have been worn there is the normal color of the ball round.He may bein possesion of a dozen or so in very good condition as well as some original '06'ap and what appears to be a mix of remanufactured '06'
AP and ball that I assume was done when USGI ammo was verboten to be imported and it was torn down to components and reloaded with new primers?There are some 100+ rds on a linked belt done by a fellow I know and the assorted rds Ive mentioned some original USGI loaded AP(bl;ack tip) and the cupronickel appearing rounds.
Thanks for the info,would the stained projectile rounds be worth anything worthwhile to a collectoe or should he just hang on to them?Or the original USGI AP worth more,we cant help but collect a few 7/8 in steel railroad conmnector plates and try 1-2 for shites and giggles.Is it not true that if available the preferred round for every small arm by the soldier whether he had a garand a BAR or a MG the AP round and finally what was the mix for linked ap?4-5 ap/1apit? or?
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I'll ask and see what the short range rounds are worth. Don't shoot them yet.

Yes, I think toward the end of WW II just about all the ammo was AP with a tracer mixed in the MG belts every now and then.

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