|10-21-2004, 07:28 PM||#1|
Join Date: Jun 2004
7.62 mm x 51 Ammo question
Picked up a battle pack of 7.62 x51 ammo. sealed green rubber case of 200 rds. with the finger holes in the end, the sticker on the side is printed:
7.62 MM X 51, DM 41 (circle with cross hairs-nato stamp)
(A black dot) WEICHKERN
LOS MS 67-6,
OK, where/when was this ammo made, it looks like the same type of battle pack, the Port. ammo I have came in. However, this is not stamped the same. and the pack appears older. how does it compare to the aussie and port.
|10-21-2004, 07:38 PM||#2|
Join Date: Mar 2004
prolly made in germany, maybe made in belgium for the germans.
it will be very good ammo.
it is worth more than port or aussie.
if it has the thin steel jacket then is is sought after by many as the bigger version of M193 - very effective terminal ballistics.
I pay $60 for 300 rds for the w. german stuff. a bit stiff, but it's for shooting, not plinking and blasting.
|10-22-2004, 02:20 AM||#3|
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Near Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Re: 7.62 mm x 51 Ammo question
The ammo is manufactured by Manusaar in the place Budingen in Germany. Proberly this was one of the compagnies that made 7,62 ammo in the 60's to build up a massive stock (remind, the cold war/ 3th WW was fighten in Germany if it would happen). I never saw this ammo, but if it's made for German standards, it's good. BTW, the black dot means that it's "Ball" ammo.
I hope this answers your question.
|10-22-2004, 05:03 PM||#5|
Join Date: Jun 2004
Thanks for the Info.
Sounds like I finally got a good deal.
Sorry RGL01 but I got both packs.
It was at a local gun shop, only had 2 of the battle packs. and I got'em. wish He had more of it. I'll find out Monday, where he picked it up and if he can get more I'll send you an Pmail.
|10-24-2004, 05:06 AM||#7|
Join Date: Dec 2003
|10-26-2004, 06:10 PM||#9|
Join Date: Jun 2004
Shoots well. Ran approx 20 rds thru the poly, shoots on par with the aussie and port. I cannot be more specific, as I shot all from offhand at a 4" swinger at 100 yds. I did hit a little high on two rds (my fault) and cut the Rebar rod holding the disk. the 2nd high rd dropped the steel disk to the grnd. So I had to do a little welding job in the middle of my play time.
I will sandbag my 14 or shoot some in my bolt gun, on paper, to see what kind of groups they are capable of. I'll post my results.
Just have to wait untill the wife takes the kids into town so I can shoot prone off the porch.
|10-26-2004, 10:23 PM||#10|
Join Date: Oct 2004
I have some of the same ,just a different lot....128/60...it is definately West German M80 ball...accurate and reliable....i'd rate it
better than Port or Aussie
|10-27-2004, 04:55 AM||#11|
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: West of the Big Muddy
Can't confirm that the ammunition was made in Budingen, I lived there for a number of years in the late '80's and early '90's and there was not an ammunition plant in that area then.... can't say for the late '60's or into the '70's.
The ammunition is ball ammunition, Weichkern translates to "soft core". I.e., steel jacket but no steel penetrator in the lead core. It should be good quality ammunition.
Hope this helps. Just as an interesting aside, the M1A that suffered a catastrophic failure, read about widely on the net (determination was that it was an improperly forged barrel, NOT the ammunition nor workmanship of the SA, Inc company), was shooting Manusaar 7.62 ammunition.
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