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Old 10-18-2004, 06:33 PM   #1
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Where to buy M14's?

I was wondering what are some good sources for finding a M14? Also, whats the going rate for a used one? I have had a M1 carbine for a while now, and while its a great weapon I need more power and range, and I can't stand AR-15's.
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Old 10-18-2004, 07:00 PM   #2
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Type in "machineguns for sale" on a search engine. That should give you a few choices.

Prices I have seen are from 8-14K. Depending on condition.
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Old 10-18-2004, 07:22 PM   #3
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Dude,

Do you want an M1a which is a M14 clone or do you want a real deal Class III M14.

M1a- Fulton Armory
Smith Ent.
LRB Arms

and several others and some one man operations that build top rifles.

M14- GunBroker
Gun Finder
and your banker
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Old 10-18-2004, 07:43 PM   #4
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Ok maybe a little education is in order.
I need one good semi-auto rifle. Right now, the M1 carbine is filling that spot. I wanted a newer rifle to replace it for day to day use, but I am very againts a 5.56mm bullet like the AR-15, so I thought the M14 was a great choice. Why are they so exspencive? The M16/Ar-15 is much cheaper for some reason. Anyways, I guess I want a M1a, since Im not looking to spend thousands for a rifle right now. Thanks for the input so far guys, Im learning.
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Old 10-18-2004, 07:43 PM   #5
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I would think from the question that you are looking for an M1A/
M14 clone and the answer to your question could be quite varied.
If you stay very basic your setup with rifle, mags, ammo,
spare parts (nominal), tools and books between $1,600 to $1,700. It is very easy to go overboard with this rifle system. but it is a lot of fun.

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Old 10-18-2004, 07:52 PM   #6
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Forgot the source info Gunshows, Internet Gunbroker.com etc, if you just want to compare pricing Gunsamerica.com tends to be on the high side.

You can still find a Polytech M14S and yes they are chinese and I won't get into that right now, for around $650, replace the bolt
with a GI bolt and you are good to go for a while till you get the
hang of it.

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Old 10-18-2004, 08:23 PM   #7
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Forgot the source info Gunshows, Internet Gunbroker.com etc, if you just want to compare pricing Gunsamerica.com tends to be on the high side.

You can still find a Polytech M14S and yes they are chinese and I won't get into that right now, for around $650, replace the bolt
with a GI bolt and you are good to go for a while till you get the
hang of it.

2BA
You see, this is the kind of answer they lure you in with.
You think hmmmmmmmmmm 650.00 that ain't to bad.
Then you find one for 600.00 and buy it thinking you just got a screaming deal.
Then you have to pull up the ol' ammo crate and learn how to buy cases of ammo, another few hundred (to start).
Then you hear about USGI parts, and how important they are, so you start looking for a gun with all USGI parts, and purchase that (another 1200.00)
Then you realize that you want to buy USGI parts to replace your Chicom parts (another 400.00-500.00 well spent)
Now you are feeling a little smug, as you now belong to the rule of two's club, and you read a little bit more, and decide its time," for what?" you ask, well its time to do your first build, so now you have to purchase an Armscorp, no, a Fulton, no a LRB barreled receiver, and 1600.00 later, you have your dream gun, (thats what you think)
By this time you have been estranged from your family and friends for several months, and realize its an obssesion, and you have to go to BR every night, and every minute you can squeeze in at work,
It's like some kind of cruel joke they play on you here, they hypnotize you to be patriotic, and do your duty to spread the good word.

This is a true story, you must decide who the author is.
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Old 10-18-2004, 09:22 PM   #8
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lol, you sound like me when I start talking about big block v8's. Im not looking to build a serious compatition gun with this, just a reliable rifle. Upgrades can be done later at a slow pace as time and money not spent on either of my trucks allows :)
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Old 10-19-2004, 04:17 AM   #9
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Just a thought: you might get lucky by checking availability of a used pre-ban Springfield Armory M1A in your area, as sometimes these can be found for around 1K and already have most of the desireable features (USGI parts), depending on condition of course.
I've read of several people finding "as new" M1A's for significantly less than the cost of building a new one.
Good luck!
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Old 10-19-2004, 02:44 PM   #10
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Look around the net, gunsandammo.com or auctionarms.com. You may find a decent M1A, or other clone for around a grand or so. Also ,visit some gunshows in your area. Check shotgunnews.com for one near you.
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Old 10-19-2004, 05:26 PM   #11
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I bought a all USGI off gunbroker about 6 months ago for $1100 delivered. The seller underrated the condition. Ser number in the 58k range. I think you would be better off with an older all USGI gun. The new ones have cast parts. Some are good some need to go back SA. At least they have a lifetime guarenty.
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Old 10-19-2004, 05:42 PM   #12
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The M14 (or M1A) is a hell of an upgrade from a carbine, like plinker to cannon. The M14 rocks

They are pricey though, and I think worth every penny. Next best is a CMP M1 Garand.
I like Fulton the best, but long, long waits. Gunbroker.com is a good place to look at past prices, goto the advanced search and look at closed items.

Or check the odcmp.com website for an M1 at a more affordable price. The Garand IS the daddy after all.
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Old 10-20-2004, 06:27 AM   #13
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Just a thought: you might get lucky by checking availability of a used pre-ban Springfield Armory M1A in your area, as sometimes these can be found for around 1K and already have most of the desireable features (USGI parts), depending on condition of course.
Its not realy a pre-ban vs post-ban issue, as SA Inc was using mostly USGI parts well into the late '90s, and has been using repro parts when their supply of USGI parts has been down since the early '80s. It seem like SA Inc started to run low on USGI parts around 2000 or 2001 (although, as stated earlier, they have had shortages in the past), and completely ran out just last year (shortly after CMP ran out of USGI M14 parts?).

Its more of an issue as to what SA Inc had in supply at the time they built any given rifle and knowing what to look for when ID-ing USGI parts. I got lucky with mine, as I didn't know what to look for, but it has mostly USGI parts (repro flash suppressor, front sight, and op-rod). It also had a repro gas cylinder lock, but I had SA Inc replace it with a USGI one under warranty, as my gas cylinder wrench from Fulton Armory wouldn't work on the repro.

For a rifle that is built completely with repro parts, I think that SA Inc's M1As are a bit pricey (JMHO). One of the main reasons that Fulton Armroy rifles are a bit more expensive is because they use all USGI parts. You may be able to find a good smith (e.g. Ted Brown, Clayton Smith, Tim Straight) that will put one together for you for a bit less than Fulton Armory and without as long of a wait, but it a lot will depend on how good a deal you can find on USGI parts. As the supply of USGI parts dwindles, look for the prices to go up.
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