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Old 08-23-2010, 08:16 PM   #1
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Plastic oiler question

I have several of the double sided plastic oilers. Which side is for the grease and which side is for the oil?
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Old 08-23-2010, 09:56 PM   #2
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Re: Plastic oiler question

The smaller side is for grease. The larger side, the one with the gasket, is for oil.

Were they used with the M14? I had thought that they were used only with the M1 Garand.
Does anyone remember?
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Didn't get one when they issued me my M-14.
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Old 08-24-2010, 06:30 AM   #4
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that's b/c someone either stole it or forgot to put it in- CASE. LUBRICANT. 1005-791-3377-in the manual, along with the list of cleaning tools stowed in the buttstock
in the buttstock
4 cleaning rod sections
1 brush , cleaning , small arms( bore brush) c/w nylon keeper
1 brush cleaning chamber. ratcheting
1 swab holder section
1 fabric envelope, 2 button
1 case, lubricant,double ended
1 combination tool
some versions of the m14 used a belt cleaning kit, but it SHOULD have been there
it's a DIFFERENT SIZE from the m1, being a little shorter, and goes in the UPPER hole in the buttstock- so your 'tower" goes combo tool, ratchet brush, then OILER, with patches AROUND THE SOCKET IN THE COMO TOOL to stop that from rattling, and patches again to take up the space between the oiler and the door
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We always got the short end of the stick, especially on Okinawa....
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Re: Plastic oiler question

OK, so now tell me about the tiny, screw-top jar of yellow Lubriplate.
Was one supposed to take the grease out of the jar, and put it into the CASE, LUBRICANT? Or was it carried separately? Where?
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OK, so now tell me about the tiny, screw-top jar of yellow Lubriplate.
Was one supposed to take the grease out of the jar, and put it into the CASE, LUBRICANT? Or was it carried separately? Where?
that's what i did/do-most times now it's white lithium-it takes about 3 finger-scoops- you don't need much- esp if you look at the "applicator"
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Now I did get the little jar of lubriplate with my M1 but we just carried it. Mostly we had a can of lubriplate open that we used.

Learned not to use too much on qualifying day at Parris Island where the temperature was around 87 or so.
M1 got pretty hot after the rapid fire at the 300 yd line so the first shot at the 500 yd line spattered some hot lubriplate back into my right eye. Hurt but I was still able to qualify with a 222 (Expert) out of 250 possible. Very proud that day.
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when i got in country, the FIRST thing i did was "acquire" a complete second cleaning kit and stick that in a small pouch in my ruc- i don't think i ever used the one in the buttstock- but i was forever "acquiring" all kinds of kit at poker games- i don't smoke, and therefore always had barter- and we had an italian "operator" in the group - he could get you "anything you wanted- for a price"- we called him " uncle guido" and he came from brooklyn
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Re: Plastic oiler question

When I was issued my M14 at Quantico in 1975, we didn't get the oiler described; we just got the rod, tips, brush and a small plastic bottle of oil. For Lubriplate, a plastic jar was passed around.
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Re: Plastic oiler question

Here's some trivia on the M14 cleaning kit lubricant case from the canon:

"The small chamber of the lubricant case held about 2.5 cubic centimeters of rifle grease. The large chamber was designed to store about 7 cubic centimeters of small arms lubricating oil known as LSA (Lubricant, Small Arms). Most lubricant cases were assembled by the contractor with a gasket for the cap on the large chamber but a few had gaskets for both caps. The USGI M14 lubricant case was marked as follows: top line - LUBRICANT CASE bottom line - 7790995."

Holiday Manufacturing Company (Grand Island, NE ?) manufactured the lubricant cases in 1961. There may have been another contractor for this item but I'm not aware of any.
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When I was issued my M14 at Quantico in 1975, we didn't get the oiler described; we just got the rod, tips, brush and a small plastic bottle of oil. For Lubriplate, a plastic jar was passed around.
that's b/c in 1975, you would probably have been issued a 'hand-back" and NOT a factory fresh m-14, lots of rifles had incomplete kits upon handback, and being plastic, the oilers broke, leaked, and were generally useless in the field- plus, it was one sob to get at- that little door in the buttplate had to be opened with the tip of your bayonet or similar object- you couldn't just stick your thumbnail under the catch and pry it open- that was the reason that most of us carried an extra kit either in the ruc, or at the bottom of the buttpack, , and that kit included broken shell extractor, and the issue can of lsa,bore cleaner, patches, and lubriplate as well as the standard kit
when your rifle was handed back, it would have been checked against a list of components by the guys in stores, whichever branch it came from, and when if it was missing the oiler, or it leaked, or is some way was unserviceable, it's replacement would have have come from a bin or, if the bin was empty, ( which it was probably by 75) it would have been subbed- probably by case, lubricant and to heck with the nsn number- even the chinese clones come with a small bottle of oil that fits inside the combo tool - but the chinese DO NOT HAVE the ratchet chamber brush- their hole for the tower is shorter by a couple of inches
incidentally, just b/c stores were out doesn't mean you couldn't get them- i got 3 m14s off the isrealis back in 92, and got buttstock kits through numrich- including the oilers- the isrealis had stripped the kits out
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Re: Plastic oiler question

T-star, that's what I figured also. I was surprised to find that after all those years with M16s, the M14 was still classified as the "standard" USMC rifle.
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well, there's standard and then there's standard- i believe the m16 is designated the standrd rifle and the 14 is a "substitute " standard meaning thatif there are no m16s left, you get issued the m14- or they're used for "special roles"like the dmr, so they're kept "on the books" in inventory, just like the 60 , even though it's been largely replaced by the m240
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The Marines tend to be a bit stubborn about some things. In '77, when I completed OCS, we were issued M16A1s, and there was certainly no love for them among the armorers.
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