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Old 09-22-2004, 07:28 PM   #1
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Do any L.E. agencies use the M1A as primary patrol rifle?

I know the majority of Law enforcement agencies are using AR15's, M4's and pistol caliber carbines as their patrol rifle. My question is have you heard of any agency using the M1A as a issue patrol rifle? I know some agencies are pretty lenient as far as service weapons, then others have a set standard. Looking to hear some replies, thanks Billy
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Old 09-22-2004, 07:37 PM   #2
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M14's for patrol?

I don't know of any agencies that issue the M14 as a primary patrol weapon, but I know several officers who carry them in their patrol car. While some departments own several M14's, most of the officers I know use their own.
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Old 09-22-2004, 07:50 PM   #3
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The Wyoming Game and Fish Dept issue U.S.G.I. M14s to their officers...one evening this last winter, my son hit a young bull moose with his Dodge pickup, (killed it to death).. the G&F officer responded to cut off the antlers, and I looked over his M14, with his permission, told him what parts it had.. Springfield receiver, Winchester bolt, in nice shape.. he has dispatched a couple of trouble black bear in local campgrounds with it.. Wyoming Highway Patrol also have some...Les
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Old 09-22-2004, 08:02 PM   #4
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California Department of Fish and Game has 'em in racks, right there in their trucks.

Last year the DFG Warden (Officer?) who checked me during dove season told me his M14 (they issue ball ammo) was great for dispatching feral dogs in the Mojave riverbed area near Victorville, CA.

In terms of Police or Sheriff's departments, you'll probably have a hard time finding M14s as the primary patrol rifle. Most agencies are too leery of the penetration of 7.62. I'm sure there are few out there, as the rifles were being GIVEN AWAY to LE agencies a while back (Ok, there was a token fee) through the DRMO program. I know several SoCal PDs that have M14s obtained through this program in their armories.
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Old 09-23-2004, 12:55 AM   #5
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the deputy that I got my bush rifle from carried it as a deputy in Colorado. His rifle, not issue. My dept carries AR's so he sold the bushie to me so he could buy an AR.
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Old 09-23-2004, 05:35 AM   #6
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I noticed that four Rockford, IL police officers in the color guard for the memorial day parade were carrying M-1A's. I haven't had a chance to ask a LEO friend about it yet.

I'm sure the patrol officers don't carry one. My friend says he has his .40 sidearm, a carbine, a shotgun and an AR-15 in his patrol car. I'm not sure why they would need all that firepower since it's illegal for anyone else to carry weapons in Illinois.
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Old 09-23-2004, 06:51 AM   #7
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The sheriff's dept. in the next county over from mine is donating their M-14/M1A's (14) to our local Marine Corps League Detachment. I would assume that they are concerned as mentioned earlier in this thread, about over penetrating. We will use them for burial details, parades and cerimonies. Before we found out about the M1A's , we had ordered 10 M-1 Garands from the headquarters for this purpose. We will be the best armed detachment around! 10 M-1s & 14 M-14's !!!!
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Old 09-23-2004, 06:54 AM   #8
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i shoot high power with a Border Patrol agent (here in michigan, not in the southwest) and he has an agency M14 he shoots hipo with. he can also get an M4A1 and a UMP (is that what it is?) the agency issues him remington 'match' ammo.

i dont know if thats any good or not....

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Old 09-23-2004, 02:58 PM   #9
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My agency has four M-14's which I got through the 1033 program, we also have four M-16A-1s...

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Old 09-23-2004, 03:05 PM   #10
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The Kentucky State Police used to have them but they sent most of them back.

No one knew what to do with them after most of the older guys retired.

Now only a few have them. They were real USGI rifles from the program Seventh Fleet was refering to.

Our local city PD tried to get some but they were told there were none were avalible because of the war.
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ump- guy with 4 eyes that can't see straight even though he's right behind home plate- according to some folks- probably means something like universal machine pistol- it's a h&k - like a mp5( not the shorty) or a 94
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All of the Troppers with the ND Highway Patrol are issued M-14's. My dept. just purchased 3 Smith EBR's with standard and side folding stocks. They work great.
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Old 12-16-2010, 03:10 PM   #13
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Re: Do any L.E. agencies use the M1A as primary patrol rifle

I know this is an old thread, but in checking all threads I see no newer threads on this topic and in the time since this thread was created other folks might have new information.....

Does anyone know of any other LE agencies that have adopted the surplus M14/ M1A platform as an agency long gun?
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Old 12-18-2010, 07:41 PM   #14
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Re: Do any L.E. agencies use the M1A as primary patrol rifle

In WA state the federal fish and game folks are issued M14's without the fun switch. I was qualifying a few months ago and two fish and game agents, a couple of attractive young gals, came onto the range with M14's slung over their shoulders. I exclaimed loudly "I think I'm in love!". One of the gals started blushing but her partner caught on right away said, "he means your rifle"..............well, what else could I have meant!!!

I sneak my Bush rifle into my trunk if I know that I'm going to be out in the boonies and may need the extra range and punch and have lots of back stop.
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:33 PM   #15
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Re: Do any L.E. agencies use the M1A as primary patrol rifle

I gave classes in assembly disassembly, using the sights, etc to some folks at Ft. Huachuca several months ago. They bought much of Mike Sadlak's stuff to mount on them. This was after going to the Sierra Vista range and using mine to put through the ringer.
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Re: Do any L.E. agencies use the M1A as primary patrol rifle

Vacaville PD in California had at least one like new Winchester M14. I watched an officer test fire it at the range one afternoon.
 
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Re: Do any L.E. agencies use the M1A as primary patrol rifle

The agency that I'm with has 30 M14's, all semiauto. One of the TAC guys that I spoke with recently says that the M14's are designated for use as helicopter snipers.
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Re: Do any L.E. agencies use the M1A as primary patrol rifle

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The agency that I'm with has 30 M14's, all semiauto. One of the TAC guys that I spoke with recently says that the M14's are designated for use as helicopter snipers.
Do they actually do any training for that theoretical use?
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:29 PM   #19
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Re: Do any L.E. agencies use the M1A as primary patrol rifle

My understanding is that they are training with the platform. However as with most agencies these days budgets are tight and that is affecting all training in our department. That being I said I believe that seven of the M14's were recently upgraded with Troy MCS's, optics and buttstocks. Everything equipment wise is being done through federal grants and you know how long that can take.
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We used mini-14's for patrol rifles. The department has since switched to AR's. We did however, use the M-14 as the spotter's weapon for our sniper team. We got some through the old North Star program and converted the spotter's rifle to full auto capability with the selector switch we got from the local National Guard Armory.
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