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Old 01-14-2005, 01:03 PM   #1
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Vietnam Era M14 Scope Mount?

Many years ago I purchased the same scope mount that was used with the Leatherwood scopes on the M14 sniper rifles during the Vietnam era. For the life of me I cannot remember who made them. It is solid steel and connects at two points (regular point and at the stripper clip guide (replaced the original)). There are no marking on it of any kind. Finish is parkerized.

It's one of those memory things brother me. Can anyone help me with who manufactured those?
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Old 01-14-2005, 04:07 PM   #2
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I think it was made by Leatherwood.
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Old 01-16-2005, 09:14 AM   #3
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Thanks TEA, but I'm pretty certain it wasn't Leatherwood. If I hear the name I'll instantly slap myself and say "dang, that's it!".

It wasn't cheap (about $110 about 22 years ago) and I'm certain it was from the manufacturer who supplied the military. I just an blank on the manufacturer's name.
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Old 01-16-2005, 09:35 AM   #4
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I hate to be the barer of bad tidings but: the ART I was the only version of the ART used in Vietnam. That was the one without the power ring lock. The mount used by the ART I was made of aluminum and had only one mounting point. The ART II, which appeared after Vietnam had a two point mount, also used an aluminum scope mount, had a different reticle pattern and came with a power lock.

I feel sorry for you because your were sold a bill of goods by an apparently exceptional salesman. If you would like to ask someone who used one of those things in Vietnam additional questions, you can email me. Or if you are skeptical, contact Leatherwood or talk to another Vietnam sniper. Better yet, contact Leatherwood or Chuck Karwan. Karwan is a writer living in the Northwest and is the leading authority on Vietnam era sniping.

Additionally, Leatherwood did not make any of the ART I (ARTEL) scopes or mounts. The ART II was a different story.
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Old 01-16-2005, 01:11 PM   #5
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Gene,

I did buy it back in the early 1980s when I was much younger and susceptible to believing people. For whatever it is, it is a rock solid mount. It looks like the a Springfield Armory two position mount (2nd generation?), except it does not have the grove on the underside so iron sights can be used. As mentioned, it is steel so it does not suffer from issues alloy mounts suffer from. I may have been told incorrectly but I still feel I didn't get ripped off. It's only drawback for my usage is that it is heavy.

I guess my next question then, does anyone know who (manufacturers) that were making M14 scope mounts in the early 1980s? One will ring a bell.

Thanks for you input and replies!
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Old 01-16-2005, 04:27 PM   #6
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Perhaps it is for the ART-2 which used 2 points, ala SA 3rd Gen mount.

I have an original ART-1. It mounts via 1 mounting point, ala SA 1st Gen mount. It is aluminum, and seems blued. The scope you do not remove from the mount, or you blow the ballistic cam setting. IMHO, it is a cheap mount. Scope is made by Redfield, and it says ART-TEL on it. SN is 0700. I bought it from Scott Duff a few years back, and it came with the carry can.
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Old 01-16-2005, 05:23 PM   #7
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the springfield 2nd generation is also a one- hole mount, but the side plate extends almost to the rear sight, just like the generation 3 without the rear hole and bushing- the third generation is only mount with the 2 mounting screws- could it be an early brookfield?
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Old 01-17-2005, 06:19 AM   #8
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Perhaps it is a third generation scope mount. It has the two contact points and screws. The screw on the receiver has a large circular "head" to hand tighten. The scope mount came with a stripper clip guide replacement for the second "screw" attachment point.

As mentioed earlier, it is designed like the Springfield Armory two position attachment scope mount, but does not thave the channel cut on the underside so that iron sights may be used. It was available before Springfield Armory made them available perhaps by a year or two.
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Old 01-18-2005, 06:42 PM   #9
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I have a mount made by Mil-Spec Logistics. It is a two point mount system. I bought it over the ARMS mount because it allowed using the weapons open sights, without removing the scope. It cost about $20.00 more then the ARMS mount. The guy had several of the ARMS and several Mil-Spec Logistics mounts. I bought it about 1995. I cannot locate anyone who is familiar with this mount. I'll be sending this rifle to "Ted Brown" to work on and maybe he can give me some info on it.
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