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Old 11-29-2004, 05:13 AM   #1
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JROTC "Rifles"

I was at the University of South Carolina vs. Temple University basketball game in Columbia, SC on Saturday (Carolina won handily!!). A color guard from a local high school JROTC unit presented the colors. The color guard consisted of two flag bearers and two that carried "rifles." I was somewhat curious as to what "rifles" they carried. Of course, they were not real rifles which is why I put the word rifle in quotes. But I was able to look closely enough to see that they appeard to be reproduction M1s. The "rifles" were very light, the metal was a shiney bright stainless steel type of material (some type of plastic, perhaps?), and from what I could tell there were no actual moving parts. Does anyone know any more about these "rifles" that the JROTC cadets carry?

Two things impressed me: (1) that local high schools actually allow their JROTC units to have "rifles" (even though they are not real) when in this politically correct day even fake firearms have gotten kids suspended from school; and (2) that they paid homage to the M1!!

By the way, the color guard handled themselves very well and did their schools and our State proud.
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Old 11-29-2004, 06:01 AM   #2
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Odd - when I was in JROTC 20 years ago, we had M1903A3 demilitarized rifles, with barrels plugged and firing pins cut. Now adays, I weep for the destruction of those fine old rifles, but at the time it didn't mean anything....who wanted a bolt action rifle in the world of ARs and AKs?
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Old 11-29-2004, 06:45 AM   #3
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When I was in JROTC in Honolulu in the mid-1960's we carried new M1's. No firing pins, but otherwise complete. As a Senior Cadet we went up to Schofield Barracks and fired Trainfire 1 with our rifles. A great experience and a lot of fun.
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Old 11-29-2004, 10:57 AM   #4
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At a recent gun show in Bowling Green, Ohio, there was a guy with his private M1 collection on display (nothing for sale). He had an all correct gas trap right up through WWII and the Korean era stuff. He also had a rubber movie prop M1. You would be hard pressed to see the difference at 25 feet, and no way at 50. It appeared to be carefully hand painted and very realistic.
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Old 11-29-2004, 02:40 PM   #5
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The JROTC unit that I was a part of (~2 years back) used demilled parade (chromed) 03A3s for competitions and games and some odd looking wood "rifles" for practice. The "1911"s (for the Command Seargent Major during parades) were plastic.

Maybe they were M1s?
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Old 11-29-2004, 04:21 PM   #6
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a friend of mine has a grandson who goes to a military high school and the child told me that they had actual 1903's that they occassionally shoot, and that they stripped down the finish to a high gloss shine to look pretty, but they actually do fire them sometimes. It is a military school though.

I cringed when he told me how they stripped down the finish. I was so appalled. I like to keep things like they were when I got them.
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My freshman year of high school ('71-'72) was at St. Francis Xavier in NYC. I was on the drill team, The "X" Squad. Our rifles were M14s. Not demilled, but fully-functional M14s.

Oh, yeah, we were the National Drill Champs for 4 years running. We took it that year too, against colleges, high schools, and even and the Old Guard refused to drill against us.

Throwing that thing in the air and catching it behind the back was a chore, I can attest to that.

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Old 09-21-2016, 05:25 PM   #8
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those "rifles" are called Glendales. they are used for high-end ceremonies i.e. major Color Guard events and parades. we had a couple of them in my jrotc back in 05-10. we still had demilled M1s that we used for everyday drills, parades, competitions, etc., since we only had 2 of the Glendales.
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In 1954 we had 1911s, carbines, Garands and BARs in the HS armory. I was required to be able to field strip and reassemble each blindfolded. Our HS DI was a hardcase named SFC Murphy and Infantry all the way.
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To All,

When I was in military boarding school 51 years ago, I was a member of the DARK KNIGHTS DRILL TEAM (We practiced from 0330-0600 M-Sa, thus the odd spelling.) & we had "dressed up" (mostly H&R) M1 Garands that were fully functional.
(You cannot fire blanks W/O firing pins.)

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In 1954 we had 1911s, carbines, Garands and BARs in the HS armory. I was required to be able to field strip and reassemble each blindfolded. Our HS DI was a hardcase named SFC Murphy and Infantry all the way.
We were in ROTC about the same time frame. We also had all the weapons you mention, plus some Browning light machine guns. We also had a rifle team and a 22LR range in the basement.
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My JROTC had a rack with 48 Garands in it.
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We were in ROTC about the same time frame. We also had all the weapons you mention, plus some Browning light machine guns. We also had a rifle team and a 22LR range in the basement.
I forgot about the range and the .22 rifles we had to qualify with for our marksmanship badges. We also had a rifle and drill team. The jocks tried to play on our field and were occasionally the recipients of a butt stroke when the tried to play through our marching formations.
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