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Old 08-21-2014, 03:53 PM   #1
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Longer barrel for Canada?

Hello, any chance someone could help me find a 18.5" or 19" barrel for my Plainsfield Machine M1 Carbine. I've moved to Canada, but I don't want to give up the gun my dad bought me for my 16th birthday (34 years ago)... Any help would really be appreciated!
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Old 08-21-2014, 04:17 PM   #2
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I've never heard of longer barrels available for M1 carbines. Does Canada have some sort of "historic" exemption in the law? Surely you don't have the only M1 in Canada. Or perhaps you could do as some here do with too-short barrelled ARs--silver-solder on a muzzle brake or flash hider of some sort?
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:37 PM   #3
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Canadian rules...

Sadly in Canada, any long gun with a barrel of 18" or less is restricted, and requires significantly more hassle than one with a non-restricted barrel length of 18.25" or longer... Apparently there were some replacement barrels made in the 70s that were 19" or so. The barrel has to be a single element, attaching an extension or flash limiter won't get around the law. Apparently the M1 Carbine was targeted for special 'treatment' by PM Pierre Trudeau after a run of robberies in Montreal that featured carbines. There are a number of odd laws here, all .32 caliber guns are prohibited yet you can own a .50 cal pistol, or a .25 cal for that matter. Apparently Canadian bad guys like the .32...
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nuclam,

WELCOME ABOARD.

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Old 08-22-2014, 05:37 AM   #5
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is it ok to mention another ( Canadian ) forum on here to help this fellow out?
but there are a couple of questions- 1 is it already registered?- 2 how much do you want to pay
if it's not registered, you need to jump through some extra hoops ( ie get it registered) before a smith will touch it- or wait a while- there's new laws coming that are supposed to make far more sense than c-68- and these are BRAND NEW barrels , not left over from a production run- the carbine never was a service arm in Canada, so all parts are new-

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is it ok to mention another ( Canadian ) forum on here to help this fellow out?
Please do! By all means!
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Old 08-22-2014, 06:27 AM   #7
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ok- http://www.canadiangunnutz.com- when you get there and become a member( as all Canadian gun posessors SHOULD BE)- go the mil surplus forums or ask one of the mods and they'll give you a list of smiths that can do this work for you- BE FOREWARNED- IT ISN'T CHEAP- myself, i'm waiting to see what comes down the pipe under this "sensible approach to gun control" legislation - if it's not registered, you might lose it as well- sometimes its better to squirrel things away than try to remedy them- just saying
be sure and mention it's a PLAINSFIELD - these are a different action entirely from usgi- if u just say carbine or us carbine the smith will assume it's usgi

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If it's acceptable, I'd add 1/4" to the end of the barrel, but not as a muzzle brake, but just something that makes the barrel longer and looks the same as the end of the barrel now. That would be fairly easy to do. Just turn down the end of the barrel, and add a piece that slips over the turned down section, and silver solder in place. Refinish to match.
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t-star,

Actually at least, NUMEROUS Canadians of the First Special Service Force , called "The Black Devils" and "The Devil's Brigade" were issued the carbine, as the Americans with the Brigade were, at least by the time of the famous attack/victory on Monte la Difensa.

This is fact, because the supply officer of Support Battalion, FSSF, complained bitterly that he was "still being shorted by many cases" of his complete "order" for carbine ammo, less than a week before the planned attack on that German mountain stronghold.

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If it's acceptable, I'd add 1/4" to the end of the barrel, but not as a muzzle brake, but just something that makes the barrel longer and looks the same as the end of the barrel now. That would be fairly easy to do. Just turn down the end of the barrel, and add a piece that slips over the turned down section, and silver solder in place. Refinish to match.
no can do- it has the word "uninterrupted" in the description- that means complete barrel- believe me this has been around since the 70's and carbine fans north of the 49 have tried everything you can think of to "get around" putting a new barrel on- it's nothing new except for the plainsfield aspect
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I read somewhere that minimum US rifle barrel length used to be 18", same as shotguns, but was specifically changed at some point to allow the popular (and often war trophy) M1 carbines. Dunno if it's true or not.

Maybe the G changed the spec because they wanted to sell carbines through DCM?
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I read somewhere that minimum US rifle barrel length used to be 18", same as shotguns, but was specifically changed at some point to allow the popular (and often war trophy) M1 carbines. Dunno if it's true or not.

Maybe the G changed the spec because they wanted to sell carbines through DCM?
IIRC the overall size and barrel length came about with the 1934 Gun Control Act (NFA - National Firearms Act). That predated the M1 Carbine.
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