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Old 10-10-2006, 06:08 PM   #1
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IBM CORP - M1 CARBINE -- M1 Carbine .30Cal. (CMP in box)

Very Nice.....check this one out!

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displ ... 652436&aa= IBM CORP - M1 CARBINE M1 Carbine .30Cal. CMP in box, NO RESERVE!!!
 
Old 10-10-2006, 07:32 PM   #2
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The rear sight is on backwards.
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Old 10-11-2006, 07:24 AM   #3
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Yea, Q,
You would think the dumb guy bidding would know that. I wonder what esle the seller did to it?
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Old 10-11-2006, 08:22 AM   #4
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I saw you were bidding on it. I'm assuming that you've seen something that I missed? It's still a nice looking carbine.
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:20 AM   #5
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It is most likely refinished and a mixture of parts. It has an Underwood slide.
Can anyone tell how one would know that?
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:53 AM   #6
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4 rivet handgaurd, too. Should it have a 2 rivet, 2nd style??
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Old 10-11-2006, 11:52 AM   #7
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Yea, Q,
You would think the dumb guy bidding would know that. I wonder what esle the seller did to it?
Don't feel bad, I missed this one, too! Sharp eyes, Quag! My compliments.
 
Old 10-11-2006, 01:55 PM   #8
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It has an Underwood slide.
Can anyone tell how one would know that?
I do.
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:21 PM   #9
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It is most likely refinished and a mixture of parts. It has an Underwood slide.
Can anyone tell how one would know that?
That's a no brainer, just attention to detail.
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Old 10-11-2006, 06:26 PM   #10
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It is most likely refinished and a mixture of parts. It has an Underwood slide.
Can anyone tell how one would know that?
The flaming bomb on top of the slide. I had an early Universal with the same slide.
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Old 10-12-2006, 05:16 AM   #11
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Many people don't know that Underwood stamped a bomb on their major parts they used in their carbines. An Underwood part without a bomb was a spare or transfered part.
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Receiver
Barrel
Trigger housing (bottom)
Slide
Also early on in manufacturing, other manufacturers stamped bombs on their trigger housings (left side) bolts (top of right lug), and barrels (left or right side of gas housing). A few manufacturers continued this through out manufacturer but most stopped.
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Old 10-12-2006, 02:22 PM   #12
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So Roger, please don't tell us you're spending a grand for a rebuilt mixmaster IBM just because you need a Underwood slide. Enquiring minds want to know.
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:42 PM   #13
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CMP carbines in the bag are usually not messed with....If you have many carbines the parts can be interchanged with others to make them "correct"....you know you are getting decent parts at the arsenal level (i.e., original finish, etc...)...remember the carbine is worth the sum of the parts. And if you can mix them together in the right configuration you can double the value of a mix master carbine by making it "all correct"...someday, collectors will catch on to this, and the prices will not be worth the effort....OR maybe not.

A sucker is born every day....all correct carbines as issued are rare, soon, because of swapping of parts, all correct carbines will 'suddenly" become available. No doubt because the greatest generation is passing on....ya right....think about it. If the government did not stamp parts for individual makers, "correct" carbine prices would be in the 400 dollar range instead of the 1000 dollar range.
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Old 10-13-2006, 04:57 AM   #14
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IMO, the white bag carbines are collectable in themselves. White bag carbines are from the Navy and most likely off ships as they were being decommissioned after the Korean War. The ones I have seen have 1953 dates and are stamped "OSD NORVA" (Ordnance Supply Depot, Norfolk, Virginia). These carbines were probabaly on ships since issued in WW2 and saw little use.


They are not good candidates for restoration because most, if not all, were re-Parkerized. Many parts that would have been originally blued, are also reparkerized.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:30 AM   #15
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I am willing to spend a grand because I have an IBM SC-B birch stock in new condition off another CMP carbine I have been holding. I also have all the other IBM parts in CMP or equal to condition. So I can restore it to all IBM. I would however put the adj. rear sight back on it.
When I have parts as spares, I consider them at no cost.
So if I can buy it for $1,000 and put $500 worth of parts on it, I would have a $1,200 carbine but it would look right to me.
I would then treat the carbine as an IBM parts kit and store it away.
And I may have a CMP Inland in need of a stock.
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I am willing to spend a grand because I have an IBM SC-B birch stock in new condition off another CMP carbine I have been holding. I also have all the other IBM parts in CMP or equal to condition. So I can restore it to all IBM. I would however put the adj. rear sight back on it.
When I have parts as spares, I consider them at no cost.
So if I can buy it for $1,000 and put $500 worth of parts on it, I would have a $1,200 carbine but it would look right to me.
I would then treat the carbine as an IBM parts kit and store it away.
And I may have a CMP Inland in need of a stock.
I see. It didn't make sense at first, but when you explain it like that, it makes lots of sense. Good for you, Roger.
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Well Catlin has it now at $1,510.01 and I maybe through. I guess I will have to hold on to that SC-B stock a few more years. This will be the second CMP IBM I have missed.
Gun show here this weekend. Four GI carbines a SG, All mixed parts with import marks removed from barrel $675. An Inland, NPM and SG all mixed parts with replacement M1 wood for $850 each.
Two Auto Ordnance M1 early features $600. They would look good to a non-collector.
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(36) Bids...so far. Hang in there Bolo7, I like the gun, too.
 
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I can't CO,
I have another deal in the works and it is taking up all my play money.
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Sorry to see this, Bro...I would have liked to see you get this gun and I certainly know you would have liked to have added it to the family. However..I can understand your reasoning.
 
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