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Old 06-16-2006, 10:11 AM   #1
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M1 Carbine "industrial blueprint" ?

Hello guys & gals.

Long long (but very long time) ago I remember having seen on this forum the post of a gentleman showing a sheet of the industrial plan for the production of the M1 Carbine, ie showing each operation of the constructions.

I would like to know if anyone here is the proud owner of such a document and would accept to make me a copy.

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Gabriel
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Old 06-16-2006, 01:21 PM   #2
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I believe that was Marine1; moderator Emeritas....He still drops in for a visit now and then. Keep watching for an appearance then PM him when he shows up.
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Old 06-17-2006, 04:18 AM   #3
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thanks Jimb16 !
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Old 07-24-2006, 04:31 PM   #4
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Thanks Jim for the reference. I received a PM and advised my Saginaw SG 1943-44 Blueprints are not for sale, @ this time. As you know we previously discussed what I was going to do with them, but decided to hold off. As you know they are the only nearly complete WW-2 surviving set of carbine blueprints, of gages used and manufacturing steps to make each carbine part, in existance today, to my knowledge. The only other ones I know of are in the Springfield Armory Museum (post-WW2 prints), and the Cody Museum has just a few WW-2 (IP blueprints). The Michigan U.S. Carbine Collectors Association, printed about 100 - 150 of the prints in our monthly copyrighted newsletters, a few years ago. As you know, the club is no longer in existance. Just a little trivia for the guys and gals.
 
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Just remember...if you ever get tire of those prints hanging around, you can just call me and I'll come and get them. I've got a truck to haul them in and I'll use any excuse for a road trip! *LOL*
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Old 07-24-2006, 07:53 PM   #6
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You know Jim....seriously I just might sell them, if the $$$ factor was right. I don't collect any longer nor edit-write carbine books or newsletters any longer, either. Maybe someone with the right $$$ offer, just might procure them from my collection, along with the Saginaw Micro-film documents and Saginaw's 1943 Sub-Contractors list with Saginaw's spare parts per 100 guns pricing list. I just might put them on auction with a hefty reserve just to see where it would go???? Might be interesting? What do you think??
 
Old 07-25-2006, 05:23 AM   #7
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Sell reprints and keep the originals.
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Old 07-26-2006, 07:26 AM   #8
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Interesting thought Bolo-7. But, as a suggestion... would you not want have the rights the originals, for copyright protection, and have the "only" original set of prints known in existance today? Thanks for your input.
 
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I too have a complete set of prints, not copies. Mine show "Ordnance Corps Dept of the Army" in the title block instead of a manufacturer. The information I have is that these were the "Technical Data Package" (TDP) sent to the manufacturers by the Army. I also have complete TDP's for the M16, M2HB .50BMG, M9 pistol, a few gun mounts, and a few military armored vehicles. I've been thinking of scanning all onto disc and offering for sale, however distribution of such information would be limited to US citizens, and no shipment outside the USA, as defined by law (no kidding). I'm also way to busy in the machine shop to take on extra activities like internet sales at the moment. One can also find copies of blueprints, approved for public release (but distribution still limited), for various obsolete military ordnance on micro film at the National Archives, which is open to the public in Washington DC. Info about accessing the National Archives is available online, I think the link can be found thru http://www.firstgov.gov
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Old 07-27-2006, 11:34 AM   #11
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Would be interesting for someone who has alot of time to go in and see if any other carbine manufacturer data is there? I doubt if Saginaw SG would be there as my prints are off the original saginaw micro-film spool from the plant, for which we bought the spool and rights to. The Steering Gear Division went 10-7 a few years ago. But...one can never tell about these things poping up here and there? Thanks for the link for research ordnance_solutions.
 
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