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Old 01-27-2005, 01:38 PM   #1
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Flip Sight

It looks like maybe the stake marks on the dovetail won't be quite as visible as I'd been afraid they would:

[img]http://www.firemission.com/m1_carbine/saginaw_s'g'/flip_sm.jpg[/img]

The sight is just resting in the dovetail, & is not inserted. It'll need to be a hair to the right of center when installed, so it's probably too far to the right in the pic.

These go in from right to left, S side 1st, right? Am I correct in thinking it was blued, not parkerized?
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Old 01-27-2005, 03:22 PM   #2
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The spring under the leaf was blued, but the rest were usually parkerized in my experience, and I don't recall seeing any bases or leafs blued. Not real ones anyway, but my memory isn't all that great anymore, anybody else? All the pics I have of flip sights (and I have alot) are the same, parked bodies and leafs, blued spring. You are correct in how it goes into the dovetail, here is a pic of my S'G' from above. Note how far left the sight was installed:
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Old 01-27-2005, 03:31 PM   #3
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Thanks Wayne.

Damn, that's a pretty rifle!
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:44 PM   #4
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The spring under the leaf was blued, but the rest were usually parkerized in my experience, and I don't recall seeing any bases or leafs blued. Not real ones anyway, but my memory isn't all that great anymore, anybody else? All the pics I have of flip sights (and I have alot) are the same, parked bodies and leafs, blued spring. You are correct in how it goes into the dovetail, here is a pic of my S'G' from above. Note how far left the sight was installed:
This is interesting. My Inland had the rear sight (flip type like shown) way to the left. In fact, the flat side of the left post was flush with the edge of the dovetail, and it shot to the left of center. When I had a gunsmith correct it, it wound up shooting center, but still over to the left of center in the dovetail. Any particular reason why this happens? It no longer seems something incidental to my particular carbine.
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Old 01-27-2005, 11:04 PM   #5
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Thanks Quagmire, it is a beauty. I sold this particular S'G' in October last year on Gunbroker, but it was as pristine as you can get, probably only had the ten test rounds fired through it, so I can't attest to its accuracy (I never fired it).

One of the methods of targeting at the factory TommyGunn, was to drift the sights left and right in the dovetail, and the further left they went, the tighter the dovetail got (it's beveled right to left). Since this one was never used in combat, it was my baseline for how a Carbine came straight from the factory, the only one I had seen outside of a museum. Ordnance had pretty strict accuracy standards the manufacturers had to meet, so I suspect something has changed on your rifle to make it shoot left. Post-war specs called for centering the rear sight in the dovetail by scribing a line down the center of the receiver, and lining up the center of the sight with this line, then staking it. They didn't always follow this specification, especially out in the field where many adjustable rear sights were installed. It is my belief that the arsenals followed this spec, and those in the field replacement biz didn't, perhaps because they didn't have access to this info at the time. The earliest documentation I can find for this spec is 1953, so it might not have been required before that. Here is a good picture of the pristine chamber and feed ramp, and what a muzzle looked like as it came out the front door (or maybe the back door with this one). Sorry about the dust, it had a muzzle cover on it to protect it :
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