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Old 01-01-2005, 02:04 PM   #1
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Bump fire M1 carbine? Is it bad for the Carbine?

I'm trying to convince my brother not to bump fire his Christmas carbine. What is the general opinion on bump fire with the carbine? I am afraid that it will break something or that there might be a greater chance of a slam fire.
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Old 01-01-2005, 04:25 PM   #2
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This is the first time I've heard of a bump firing question! Actually I've done it a few times myself. I really don't recommend it though. The two main problems are the possibility of damage to the extractor and to the stock. Slamming the extractor can cause extractor failures just as it did occassionaly with the M2. But the more real problem is with the stock. The added stress of fast firing can result in a broken stock. That is why the M2 stock was developed. It needed the heavier wood on the foreend to prevent breakage. The probablity of a slamfire is no greater than with the M2 since the carbine will not fire untill the bolt is rotated. (I'm assuming this is a USGI carbine) While I see no real threat to the carbine from bump firing, it is also not possible to control the firearm as well as when firing in the normal manner and a wild shot can result.
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Old 01-01-2005, 04:46 PM   #3
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Sorry for my ignorance, but what is bump firing?
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Old 01-01-2005, 05:03 PM   #4
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Bump firing is a method of holding/firing the semi-auto rifle in such a fashion as to simulate full auto firing. Properly done, a 15 round mag lasts about 1.5 seconds. Since I don't recommend the practice due to safety considerations, I won't explain the etail of how it is done.
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Old 01-01-2005, 07:39 PM   #5
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Thanks!

I've bump fired quite a bit with a Romanian SAR-1... So I showed my brother yesterday and then he started trying it out with his Underwood M1 carbine. It worked for the most part except for the failure to feed the lead bullets every 3 to 5 rnds.

I've also seen a vid on the net of some guy bump firing an M1 Garand.

It is a blast when using something like an AK clone but I am afraid that it could cause extra stress on the M1 and cause something to break. I wished I didn't show him... I don't think it is worth it...
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Old 01-02-2005, 05:17 AM   #6
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I'm with Jimb; there's something inside me that goes *cringe* at the mere thought of firing a weapon in a way it wasn't designed/built for.
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I don't know what bump firing is but most of the shooting I do is with my 1841 Rifle(Mississippi). This is a slow firing but very accurate rifle. My question is how accurate can one be "bump firing"?
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Old 01-02-2005, 06:16 AM   #8
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I don't know what bump firing is but most of the shooting I do is with my 1841 Rifle(Mississippi). This is a slow firing but very accurate rifle. My question is how accurate can one be "bump firing"?
Not very. Think "spray and pray" without the "pray".

It's all about the noise.
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Old 01-02-2005, 07:18 AM   #9
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There is no mechanical reason to not bump fire a carbine or any other semi-auto weapon, except the accelerated wear on the barrel, action and fire control parts. The extractor is not 'slammed' any harder than with regular firing. The carbine must be properly secured in the stock. If there's any play, the action may beat the recoil plate into the stock causing damage. The same thing would happen with regular firing, but would happen sooner with bump firing. Incidentally, it's possible to bump fire off the shoulder, resulting in some degree of aimed fire. Even shooting off the hip, the usual bump fire method, one can usually direct fire to the target area. There is a video posted on 'AR15.com' in the AK47 area, and probably many more could be found with a web search. They show very well-controlled guns, not wildly spraying into the air. Guys have been known to bump shotguns and M14s, too.
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Old 01-03-2005, 03:55 PM   #10
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Check out the 7.5" semi-auto AR-15 bumping over in the AR-15 thread.
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