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Old 01-18-2008, 03:20 AM   #1
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What Good Is .357?

More of a rhetorical question. It just seems that with so much attention being given to .44, .454, .460, etc., lots of folks may be overlooking .357s that would fill their niche just fine.

Lots of people locally use(d) them for javelina and deer for HAM hunts. Still common for varmints.

Does anyone think it has lost its place/no longer viable?

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Old 01-18-2008, 03:41 AM   #2
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I bought a used Dan Wesson, with 8 in barrel, afew months back and I CERTAINLY don't think they've lost they place.
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:43 AM   #3
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Re: What Good Is .357?

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More of a rhetorical question. It just seems that with so much attention being given to .44, .454, .460, etc., lots of folks may be overlooking .357s that would fill their niche just fine.

Lots of people locally use(d) them for javelina and deer for HAM hunts. Still common for varmints.

Does anyone think it has lost its place/no longer viable?

Jon
Still use it. Concealed carry in a snubbie. 1894C Marlin lever for varmints & putting down car hit deer. Will never be non-viable.
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Old 01-18-2008, 05:31 AM   #4
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While I think the .357 will live forever its role has surely changed.

Since automatics became the widespread choice of law enforcement, and the public generally followed, its job as a defense cartirdge has been taken by pistol rounds.

And even though you can now get 12 ounce "J" frames that shoot it I have yet to find a more unpleasant handgun to shoot (although the 329 is close) so it is more likely to be used with .38s. In full size revolvers it is a fine deer cartridge at reasonable ranges.

The carbines mentioned are dandy truck guns for the purposes stated.
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Old 01-18-2008, 05:57 AM   #5
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A nice .38/.357 revolver (especially one of those DW's with the multiple barrels) still gives you the widest spectrum of ammo choices from one gun. Enough to keep a reloader busy for a loooong time.
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:44 AM   #6
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There are still a lot of people who don't haunt the book stores, or the Internet, devouring all of the latest hooplah about the newest super-cartridge or gun. They usually own 4" or 6" .357 revolvers, and are quite happy with them. They represent the majority of people asked by friends, neighbors, and family members about a "good gun for whatever purpose".

A lot of people don't wish to spend $1000 on a gun that probably won't see the light of day to be shot more than once or twice a year. The .357 magnum will wait patiently, and can be down-loaded with .38 Special ammo. It's also a more affordable gun until you get into the miniaturized, exotic-alloy pieces.

While we don't like to mention these people, until we need sheer numbers, I'm willing to bet that they are still the largest part of the "gun-owning public". For them, the .357 Magnum, in a medium-frame revolver, is the equivalent of Darth Vader's Death Star.
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:13 PM   #7
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I will always have at least one .357 handgun. I need it to match my rifle . I also will always have a .357 rifle; I need it to match my handgun . . .

I is one of the more versatile cartridges around. Ammo can almost always be found (at least I've never not been able to get some). If I ever get back into reloading, it will be the cartridge I load for.
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Old 01-19-2008, 05:02 AM   #8
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I still occasionally carry a S&W 686 with a 2 1/4 " barrel off duty. My 1911 is still my favorite, but I think that the .357 is a fine self defense round, and quite controllable in the L frame format. I'll freely admit that reloads are slower (for me anyway). But I also think that in most scenarios that's a non-issue.

I'm not a hunter, but I don't know of any game in this neck of the woods that couldn't be taken cleanly with a .357 and an appropriate load.
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While in the midst of rebuilding my collection, I realized I sorely miss my Ruger Security Sixes. Both had 4" barrels, one stainless the other blued.

There is now a GP100 in stainless with a 6" barrel waiting to come home with me. It wants to hunt pigs. We have a date.

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Old 01-19-2008, 06:22 AM   #10
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We have two Security-Six Magnum revolvers. Both 4", and both Stainless. I had to, as Lfox wouldn't get off of mine until I found her one!!!!
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:28 AM   #11
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I own several .357s ranging from a 2.5" M19 to a 6" Python. Lovely guns all. I used to own a 6" M28 Highway Patrolman, which I miss horribly to this day. That gun just seemed to say, "Hey, handloader guy, let's see just how fast a .357 bullet can be made to go! Let's rock!" My current 4" M28 doesn't seem to have anything to say on the subject, though it is a big, wonderful confidence-building fistfull of old-school steel.
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Old 01-19-2008, 07:46 AM   #12
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I will always have at least one .357 handgun. I need it to match my rifle . I also will always have a .357 rifle; I need it to match my handgun . . .
Now that is logic I can follow.
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Old 01-19-2008, 09:43 PM   #13
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yup

8 inch Dan Wesson here. gonna order the 4 inch barrel to change it up every once in a while
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:03 PM   #14
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If I could only have one full sized handgun it'd be a stainless 4" Ruger GP100 .357.
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Old 01-20-2008, 07:18 AM   #15
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one look at the frame size will tell you it's still viable- esp if you have soall hands or trouble with recoil- lots of folks still use the 38 spcl as well, again becaise of the frame or the recoil problem
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Old 01-20-2008, 08:11 AM   #16
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  • Here are the 357s I currently own.

    [img=center]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/csmkersh/Guns/My_357s.jpg[/img]

    They are laid out top to bottom in order of purchase.[list:3gchw1zd]

    [1] Ruger flat-top
    [2] S&W 586
    [3] S&W Model 13
    [4] S&W Model 640-2

I've had numerous others including a 4" Model 19 with the smoothest factory trigger I ever saw. A friend of mine Dan Flamia, SAPD, was looking for a nice piece for another cop and I sold it to him. Wish I had it back. [/list:u:3gchw1zd]
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Old 01-24-2008, 08:28 PM   #17
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fwiw, my opinion for SELF-protection in bear/big cat/hostile country is nothing less than a quality 357MAG in a 4" barrel.
(privately owned .357s were POPULAR sidearms in RVN too, despite "ARs" to the contrary.)

when i was in "el tigre's hometown" years ago, a S&W Model 66 in an El Paso Saddlery holster was NEVER out of my reach.

the Model 66 was a "comforting bedfellow" , especially after a big jaguar's tracks were found just outside my "hootch" one summer morning. (fwiw, THAT got my attention! "el tigre" regards persons as "easily caught food" & nothing more than food!)

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Old 01-25-2008, 03:37 AM   #18
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A bit OT, but...

AZ Game and Fish has in recent years acknowledged jaguars are back in Arizona. Definately something to watch for while you're poking around for javelina.

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Old 01-25-2008, 09:00 PM   #19
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fwiw, jaguars are also IN south TX & parts of NM, too.

and NOPE they don't qualify as "illegals", nor to they request a visa. (chuckle)

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Old 01-28-2008, 09:39 AM   #20
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Iím not a fan of the .357 magnum as a combat round, I think the .38 Special +P is a better choice. But I do like the .357 for just about everything else, and if I have to face two legged varmints, we all know the .357 is certainly up to the task.

One of the great things about the .357 is itís versatility. A 148 grain wadcutter is an outstanding small game round and you can step up to a 158 grain bullet for deer out to 50+ yards. The one time I found myself in a fight with a bear, I was armed with a .357. Although at the time, I wish I had something bigger, I have to admit that Iím here typing this because the .357 did its job.
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