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Old 12-19-2006, 03:35 PM   #1
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Round for Colt Agent?

Wanted to get opinions for a round for an old Colt Agent (allloy frame, steel cylinder and barrel, short grip, 1st edition). I do know that it is not +P rated but I am not aware of any decent rounds currently being offered in non +P. The gun belongs to my father and he is very attached to it and keeps it as his main gun. To my dismay he still keeps it loaded with the 158 grain RNL. My ammo locker just does not contain any viable rounds other than +P's. Thanks for any input. Bill
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:30 PM   #2
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Well, may a PD used 158 grain RNL for many years. But you might buy him a box of Federals 110 grain JHP Hydra-Shok PDs, PD38HS3H. They're non-Plus P.
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:31 PM   #3
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I use the Corbon 110gr DPX
standard .38 special if there is anything really standard about Corbon...lol
Velocity 1200fps energy 352ft/lbs that is smoking for a .38
the Agent is a very neat little revolver i have one w/ the hammer shroud and use it as an ankle gun with the Corbon ammo.
keep in mind with the short grip it will be a handful.
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:34 PM   #4
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Corbon 110gr DPX is a Plus P round. He was looking for a non-Plus P.
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:38 PM   #5
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no sir they make it standard as well
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:43 PM   #6
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  • Not any more according to Corbon.
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:45 PM   #7
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I guess my box just magically appeared then.
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If you'll google Corbon, then click on the link to corbon.com followed by Products then DXP, you will find that no non-Plus P .38 Specials are listed in the product line.
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:59 PM   #9
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Yes sir i understand that but i just bought the ammo pictured less than a month ago so go figure. I don't know what gives cause the shop had plenty of it.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:32 PM   #10
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Check this out.
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Corb ... 20Ammo.htm

I do know if they still make it in a standard loading but they need to its a very good round. also some good info on snubbies.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:58 PM   #11
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Has anyone thought of the 148 gr. wadcutter?
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Old 12-19-2006, 07:04 PM   #12
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Has anyone thought of the 148 gr. wadcutter?
I have! And was even going to suggest it, but thought I might be laughed at.

Back when I was a USAF instructor, we were armed in performance of duty (to protect the security of the weapons) with Smith 15s loaded with the anemic M41 ball. At one point there was a shortage of this stuff and we had to shoot "locally procured" Winchester 148WCs for qualification, though we kept enough M41 on hand for duty use. I usually loaded my sidearm with the WCs, figguring they'd be AT LEAST as damaging as the M41. I never felt underarmed with them, and to this day believe they'd be a very satisfactory load in non +P rated .38s.

You could do a LOT worse.
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Old 12-20-2006, 12:12 PM   #13
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must be the great minds thing...

actually there is more bullet weight than most non +P loads and that big flat bullet nose will make a tidy hole. Velocity is not going to be much different either.

don't tell me you were one of the dreaded "red hats"
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don't tell me you were one of the dreaded "red hats"
I not only was, I think I still have the thing around here somewhere, too...

...and my GI whistle...

...and the gray plastic flightline earmuffs, which I continued to use until the earpads rotted clean off them just a couple years ago...

...and I damn skippy have my MA1 jacket, you betcha!
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Old 12-20-2006, 02:50 PM   #15
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Well maybe there's hope for you after all
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Old 12-20-2006, 03:05 PM   #16
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110 gr Winchester Silvertips are non-+P. The 125s are +P.

Geoff
Who uses the 110 gr for Serious Social Intercourse in his well proven M.38.
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Old 12-20-2006, 03:36 PM   #17
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BillG, not sure where your located, but Atlanta Arms makes a dandy 148 gr FMJ wadcutter that I like a lot. It's a non-plus P round, shoots great and is inexpensive. I usually get a case or two each year.

FWIW, it's not a bad idea to keep plus P ammo in the gun for serious use and shoot only the non-Plus P ammo for practice.
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:50 PM   #18
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Thanks for the replies fellas. I like the offerings from Federal and Winchester, they may have some promise. When I search my memory bank I can remember that revolver being a tack driver with the wadcutters as well. Dad is 72, in good health, but stout recoil is not something he is willing to deal with. Im gonna get him out to the range and try a box of each to see which he likes the best. He is funny though, he still spouts the old Colt advertisement about the 6 shot cylinder being a big advantage over my little Smith. Thanks Again, Bill
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From Buffalo Bore Bullets:

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Standard Pressure Short Barrel Heavy .38 Special

Item No. 20C/20 158gr. very soft lead cast, SWC-HC gas checked bullet 854 fps (256 ft. lbs.) from S&W mod. 60, 2 inch barrel Per Box of 20 $20.99

Item No. 20D/20 Very hard cast 150gr. WAD CUTTER bullet 868 fps (251 ft. lbs.)from S&W mod. 60, 2 inch barrel Per Box of 20
$20.99

Item No. 20E/20 Speer Low Velocity uni-core 125 gr. Jacketed hollow cavity 921 fps (235 ft. lbs.) from S&W mod. 60, 2 inch barrel Per Box of 20 $20.99
http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunition/default.htm#38spl
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