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Old 01-14-2005, 06:59 PM   #21
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HP Shooter, question for you on slinging up for prone and sitting. I have the od green web sling for my garand and I'm gonna try slinging up this year when doing my highpower matches. When you have yourself set into position the sling is to help keep tension on the rifle pushing it into your shoulder, correct? Wwhen I shot my matches last year I didn't use the sling at all and from what everyone tells me I wwill do better shooting with it. Just want to be shure I'm going to be using it correctly. I'm also gonna try 30cal's method of a high elbow when I'm at the range tomorrow. Sound like that may help me some also. I tryed it in dryfire practice and I didn't seem to move around as much. I'm hoping to make a big step forward in my scores this year and getting the technique fixed is going to have to be a big part of it.
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Old 01-15-2005, 08:38 AM   #22
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vf, you are exactly right when you describe the purpose of the sling. You know tension is right when you have to push the rifle forward a little bit with your right hand to get it in the pocket of your shoulder. The sling will pull the rifle into your shoulder. That tension, plus the fact that your left elbow should be almost exactly under the rifle (not off to the left), supports the rifle to the point where NO muscle tension is needed to keep it there. Once properly slung up you should be able to open your left hand, relax your left arm, remove your right hand off the gun, and the rifle should not move from the target.

Also, notice that the sling form the base of an upside down triangle. One leg is the upper arm from shoulder to elbow, the other leg is the fore arm from elbow to rifle, and the last leg is the sling from rifle back to the upper arm.

Here's a good illustration of how to use the M1 sling (that's the designation for the canvas sling) as a shooting support.

A lot of people think the only sling useful for position shooting is the M1907 leather sling. Not so. The M1 sling is just as steady.
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Old 01-15-2005, 10:28 AM   #23
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Thank you for that link, my second question would have been how to set the sling up and that answered it perfectly. I practised my standing shooting today at the range and 30Cal's method of pulling the elbow up does help steady my arm more. (Thank you sir ) It was only 26 degrees F at the range this morning so I didn't get to try prone or sitting. The ground is a bit cold at the moment to get comfortable in those positions.
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Old 01-15-2005, 03:52 PM   #24
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Thank you for that link, my second question would have been how to set the sling up and that answered it perfectly. I practised my standing shooting today at the range and 30Cal's method of pulling the elbow up does help steady my arm more. (Thank you sir ) It was only 26 degrees F at the range this morning so I didn't get to try prone or sitting. The ground is a bit cold at the moment to get comfortable in those positions.
Most people who have never used a sling as a shooting support simply have a hard time understanding that a proficient position shooter using a sling does not need a benchrest or bipod to obtain his rifle's maximum accuracy. They simply think that is impossible, until someone shows them how to do it right.

You will find the sling will provide a dramatic improvement in your scores.
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Old 01-17-2005, 08:22 AM   #25
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Use of the sling allows the shooter to relax his forward arm. The sling doesn't pull the rifle into your shoulder. In fact, since you sort of relax forward into it, the fit of the buttstock in your shoulder will probably be looser than before.
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Old 01-17-2005, 03:10 PM   #26
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The sling doesn't pull the rifle into your shoulder. In fact, since you sort of relax forward into it, the fit of the buttstock in your shoulder will probably be looser than before.
Maybe so for you. But I physically have to push my rifles fwd to get it into my shoulder. Once there, there is a distinct force going back from the sling. I like my slings *TIGHT*.
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Old 01-20-2005, 11:06 AM   #27
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The length of pull on service rifles is a bit short for me, that's probably what I should have included. With a sling, it only get's worse. I fix it by adding padding on my shoulder under my coat.
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I LOVE the sticker "Capitalist Oppresor" in the second shot.

WHERE can I get about 10 of those???????????????

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These are all great positions and are correct except for the sitting position.Sitting indian style is good but crossed ankle is better and offers more bone support.Also gets rid of the cant right body low.The cross ankle is the way to learn for steader shooting.When I was younger I was able to get really low in the indian style and place my elbows on the ground I know its not legal in high power but i sure did shoot sitting like prone.The indian style does have its diadvantages for heavy people cuts breathing and creates a pulse.I also have to switch my ankles for correct natural hight as I am shorter stature.The prone positon leg drawn up can be great for young people but sometimes us older shooters have back problems at the long range 20 shots can seem like a long time if your back is stressed.Try both legs flat either on your toes or ankles flat can help.Semper FI
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