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Old 12-27-2007, 06:05 AM   #1
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BOISE, Idaho Idaho law enforcement officials say they are "mortified" by a slogan chosen by the latest group of state police academy graduates.

The slogan, "Don't suffer from PTSD, go out and cause it," was emblazoned on the Dec. 14 graduation programs for 43 officers who completed the Idaho Police Officer Standards and Training Academy's latest course.
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Old 12-27-2007, 07:30 AM   #2
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I thought this was pretty funny. We've gotten too sensitive. A friend in LEO had a tee-shirt with the words "Send a boy to camp" and a picture of a handcuffed boy being put on a bus with "Work Camp" as the destination. i got a laugh when I saw that one.
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Old 12-27-2007, 09:30 AM   #3
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Sound like a good slogan to me. Maybe if the courts would stop letting the bg's go with a slap on the wrist the LE's could be more effective. If in the meantime they have to scare the crap out of the bg's to keep them from being stupid more power to em.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:23 AM   #4
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  • I prefer the one Delta & the Night Stalkers at Ft Cambell used:
    [list:2n4qqnio]We own the night.

Haven't heard a thing out of Delta since they played kill the bad guy here at Fort Sam about 5 years back.[/list:u:2n4qqnio]
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Haven't heard a thing out of Delta since they played kill the bad guy here at Fort Sam about 5 years back.
...and the rest of the story?
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:14 AM   #6
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  • At the time Delta was getting cities to allow them to come in and use vacant buildings for practicing assassinations/hostage retrieval. They contacted the City of San Antonio who said, "NO!" very loudly. Fort Sam had complex of unused buildings - old BAMC -they then made available to Delta. They set up their scenario which included the Nightstalkers, a volunteer chopper group from Ft Campbell, flash-bangs and live rounds. The live rounds were supposedly ceramics that worked well on flesh by powdered on impact with hard surfaces and reduced ricochets. They then ran the op and got complaints from the Colonels who lived across the parade ground over the noise. SA wasn't the first city I knew of Delta doing this, but the last.
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:13 AM   #7
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Just another example of the chickification of society. Can't men just be men without grandma being offended. I mean man as a state of mind not a sex.

I want a T-shirt with that motto emblazoned
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  • At the time Delta was getting cities to allow them to come in and use vacant buildings for practicing assassinations/hostage retrieval. They contacted the City of San Antonio who said, "NO!" very loudly. Fort Sam had complex of unused buildings - old BAMC -they then made available to Delta. They set up their scenario which included the Nightstalkers, a volunteer chopper group from Ft Campbell, flash-bangs and live rounds. The live rounds were supposedly ceramics that worked well on flesh by powdered on impact with hard surfaces and reduced ricochets. They then ran the op and got complaints from the Colonels who lived across the parade ground over the noise. SA wasn't the first city I knew of Delta doing this, but the last.
Something along those lines happened for a few days near where I lived in NJ years a go. I don't know who was involved but they used an old metal hospital. Had Mh60s and MH6s flying over the house for days, went over one day and you could see them fastroping onto the building.
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After flooding from Hurricane Floyd in 1999, the New Brunswick NJ, PD HQ was trashed and they had to move to the center of the city. Before the building was torn down, members from one of the SEAL teams (don't remember which one, one of their members had recently become a county investigator) came in and did a whole scenario in the old HQ. It started with a sniper initiated assault using live rounds, with the shooters firing over traffic and pedestrians from an unfinished floor in a nearby high-rise. The assulting element used explosive breaching with IV bags, live rounds and flash grenades in the drill. It was an all military event but it was very cool to watch.

About 4 years ago I participated with some members of our county tactical team in a 3 day class with a "training" group comprised of some special active duty military folk. On the last day, we did a mock assault with live rounds in an old movie theater in a busy business area of a northern NJ town. Again a Sniper initiated assault with live fire over the heads of unsuspecting peds and traffic, mechanical/shotgun breaching and live fire inside with live "hostages" in the rooms. Eye opening to say the least. Talk about operating under stress.
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I remember back in the nineties "an unnamed Army group" conducted exercises in Houston and somebody didn't get the message and the SWAT team was dispatched before they got the situation cleared up.
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I was involved with Ted Hoffenbeck years ago to help develop PTSD counseling for officers in Idaho. Larry Plot was a forward thinking man 25 years ago. I'm honored.

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