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Old 08-06-2016, 08:39 PM   #1
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AR15 mag recommendations?

Well, guys, looks like I'm on the road to taking the AR plunge--a local board I frequent has a Group Buy on lowers which I helped pull a couple pieces together to help make happen.

So, need some advice on mags. Right now I can get Elite Tactical's self-coupling clear mags for $12.50 a pop and they have a few other features I like (like color-coding followers and floorplates for whatever reason, like different ammo types etc.), though I also know that the Lancer Advanced Warfighter mags are similar on ammo-viewing and have a strong rep in some circles, and Defense Review liked the SureFire quad-stackers.

I'm going to ask you guys for thoughts on three categories: the Really Good ("worth full price"), the Worth Snagging On Sale ("if you see these below $x snag 'em," and please note worthwhile sticker) and the You Couldn't Be PAID Enough To Use 'Em.

Before I proceed, I suppose I should show you the rifle I'm looking at. Basically the one at this link:
AR-15 With 15 inch Free Float Keymod and UTG Red Dot 1-8 WYLDE Barrel ? Wise Arms LLC
Except that by having them omit the lower receiver and sell me an unassembled "parts kit" I've been quoted a hundred bucks less.

Your thoughts, guys?
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Old 08-07-2016, 05:30 AM   #2
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My SWaMPy Sport I AR came with a 30 round P-mag. I have P-mags in 20-30-40 round capacity, but I am not a heavy user. I'm still working my way back to full function from a car accident a year and a month ago.

I don't know what the 3 gun guys and gals are using locally.

There are some folks who swear by mil-spec magazines from D&H and Okay, but deals on 30 round mags have dried up under the HRC threat. Even sale priced P-mags are only about $1 off sticker locally in NE FL.

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Old 08-07-2016, 07:17 AM   #3
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My comment is on the rifle.

The specs say it's .223 Wilde barrel, that will shoot both 5.56 and .223.

If true, then why not call it chambered in 5.56?

I'm not familiar with the Wilde brand, but my understanding is that a 5.56 chamber and barrel will handle both 5.56 and the .223, while a .223 chamber and barrel WILL NOT safely fire 5.56.

If there isn't something unique about Wilde, and why they label theirs that way, a little more research may be in order, if you plan to use 5.56.
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Old 08-07-2016, 07:34 AM   #4
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Diamondback,

IF you are patient & "haunt" the gun-shows, you can often find "marked" COLT's 20/30 round magazines (among the piles of "no name" junk magazines) for as little as 5.00 each.
(I recently bought 6 Colt's, 20 round, RVN-era magazines for 25.oo cash at a SA gun-show.)

As you & other "old-timers" here know, I'm addicted to the M1 Garand & at that same gun-show I found a "computer printer paper" box full of enbloc clips for 10 bucks. = I have NOT counted them but there is likely a "lifetime supply" in that box. = Maybe 2-300 or more.
(I've already found 5 five-shot Garand clips, that cost almost 10 bucks each these days, so I feel quite lucky to have found that box-full.)

yours, satx
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Geoff, are you talking the G&A or Gun Digest books? Unless Sweeney's come out with a Volume 5, I'm caught up on those but there've also been new developments past Vol. 4, and I've noticed a certain preference by published authors to remain silent rather than say "this is crap."

Phenix: The Wylde is kind of a hybrid, in that it's designed to handle 5.56 as well as a NATO bore but with better .223 compatibility--in short, a 5.56 NATO base chamber with a .223 Rem freebore. Aero Precision uses it almost exclusively in their builds.

SW: Around here... well, a Seattle gun-show isn't the same as an SA gun-show. Sure, you've got the odd deal to be found, but you've also got tons of skeevy sorts that make you feel like you need three showers afterward. (Around here, for some reason, gun shows seem to be the one place where the neo-Nazi crowd crawls out into the open... I don't like being around such people for the simple reason of having to resist the urge to do a George Foreman on some Nazi bastard. WA Arms Collectors has cleaned up their shows a bit from when I first joined the org, but still...)
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You Can't Go Wrong...

...with TangoDown's ARC magazines. (Ask anyone you know in SOCOM.)
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Diamondback,

SORRY to hear that about Seattle Gun-shows. = NOPE, not like that here, as the TX gun clubs & the host facilities here "invite" creeps OUT of the building.

Check your mailbox.

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Skip the mall ninja stuff like mags that lock to each other. I've been very happy with Brownell's mags. They're a DOD supplier and they've been very reliable. Get both 20 & 30 round versions. The 20s are much more handy, allow you to id your ammo selection in the dark and make you look at least somewhat less like a crazed militia type.

The "Colt" mags are actually marked Hartford. We abused hundreds, if you're over enthusiastic in mag insertation, you can crack feed lips. But, you can do that with any.

About the rifle: Never heard of either the sight or the folks who slap that one together. Personally, I don't like stainless barrels, when they fail, there's no warning, you're just suddenly seeing bullets hit targets sideways. Chrome-moly with plated bore & chamber for me. The specs on the piece make it seem like a range toy for those who want to try to shoot itty-bitty groups rather than a defensive item.

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Phenix: The Wylde is kind of a hybrid, in that it's designed to handle 5.56 as well as a NATO bore but with better .223 compatibility--in short, a 5.56 NATO base chamber with a .223 Rem freebore. Aero Precision uses it almost exclusively in their builds...
Thanks for straightening me out, and teaching me something new!
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Thanks for straightening me out, and teaching me something new!
TBH, I wasn't sure about the technicals myself... learn something new every day, huh?

WRM, agreed on stainless barrels, but I figure I can swap it out in a later upgrade. As it is, I'll have to find a shorter stock to fit my 11"-or-less-LOP arm... The long forearm may not be the M4gery many might favor, but I tend to prefer the longest sight radius I can get, ideally using every possible inch from front of flash suppressor back as close to my eye as possible, along with the extra maneuverability and rest options a longer forearm allows. It's not what I'd consider perfect by a longshot--my Powerball Win choice would be to once the paperwork was out of the way for my gal to play too, have Aero Precision (maybe I'm a little biased, but they're Home Team and do better work than Olympic) build a his-and-hers set to order.
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Best AR magazine I've ever used was the Lancer L5 AWM. And they're about the same price as the better GI style magazines.
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Tests I've been reading, the Lancer and ETS (non-coupling) both run very close to PMag and USGI--haven't been able to find any Torture Testing data on Hexmag but I've seen them offered for about nine bucks.
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