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Old 07-02-2007, 12:37 AM   #1
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Fulton ARmory FAR-15 legacy rifle

Hey guys,
I am looking at getting a Colt SP1 and was a bit shocked at the prices these days then i ran into the guys from Fulton Armory.
They have a "legacy rifle" that is in A1 configuration what do you guys know about the guys at FA i know of their M1's & M1A's but am new to the AR line with these guys. Any advice you could give will be very helpful.
here is the link.
http://www.fulton-armory.com/
Or should i just buy a Colt?
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Old 07-03-2007, 09:11 PM   #2
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I have a Predator S/N 07XX from their first year of production for the FAR15's. I have no complaints it has never malfunctioned and will consume any thing I feed it and is hell on the Ground Hog population here in WV.
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Old 07-07-2007, 05:25 PM   #3
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I've had my eye on this one for a while too....anybody who has them have comments, would really like to hear some reviews.
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:08 PM   #4
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I love that old school look so much more but I just can't do it (lefty) heard plenty of burnt nose stories from my pops using the m16 in the 70s I don't want a burned nose.. but I really love the way they look.
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Old 07-08-2007, 12:13 PM   #5
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For less than the price of either, you can DIY for a few bills less. Pick up a surplus Colt -A1 upper (CDNN had these NIW a year or so ago, they may still have them). If they don't, look on the EE at AR15.com or gunbroker; you can still get them as-new if you know where to go. Pick up a new carrier and charge handle from pretty much any major manufacturer, and a forged A2 lower. The correct furniture (PG and buttstock) can be had from Sarco for around $30. You'll end up with essentially the same gun as Fulton's. The lower will have the A2 mag release button fence, but so does the Fulton rifle according to the pics on the website. If you're really a purist, you can occasionally find SP1 lowers for sale that will have more or less the right mag fence or lack thereof, but you'd probably need an offset pin to make the lower mate to the upper. NoDakSpud is supposedly making lowers without the fence, but who knows when or if these will ever hit the market. I'd just buy an RRA lower and add Sarco furniture. The main thing to remember is that the early style buttstock uses a retaining screw that is 5/8" shorter than the current A2 screw. No problem there, just measure off 5/8" and use a Dremel cutoff wheel to shorten an A2 stock screw. That's what I did, and it was GTG. If you want the 3-prong hider, you should have no problem finding one at a funshow, or just do a google search and you'd likely find an online offering or twenty.
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Old 07-08-2007, 01:02 PM   #6
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I own a Fulton Legacy M16 and I love it.

I've always liked the old-style M16 but was surprised that all the major AR15 makers seemed to offer only A2 and A4 rifles.

I too finally came across the Fulton Legacy rifle and had to have one. I got it about three years ago and have put maybe 800-900 rounds through her since then.

For the price, I can't see anything to complan about; it's a new M16 pencil barrel, slickside upper with A1 sights and all-new guts.

As for the lack of case deflector, I'm a lefty and I can count the times I've been hit by a case in the cheek or ear on one hand- no big deal!

If you really want an old-style M16 I say grab it, before they dry up. I assume there are only so many early slabside M16 uppers sitting in a room somewhere.

Just be aware, due to the old 1 in 12 rifling twist, you don't want to shoot M855 or commercial 62 and 68g ammo in it. With M193 and commercial 55g stuff, it shoots just fine.

Good luck.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:36 PM   #7
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the price looks good, especially for myself who doesn't really want to put one together....just like to buy it and shoot it.

I am concerned that my stupid state and county are trying to enact AWB laws and the moment I buy one, it will soon be illegal to own.

Did you have to wait long for fulton to get it out to you??? I have heard some stories of long long wait times.
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:28 PM   #8
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I'm sure you know, you can't have a new rifle mailed to your house; the CMP surplus stuff is a special situation, if I understand it correclty.

If you're buying a complete rifle, it has to be shipped to your gunshop.

I ordered a Legacy upper which was perfectly legal to be shipped to my house. They got it to me in one week. I then put an original M16 butstock (with no trap door!) on a lower I already had. When the upper arrived, I splapped them together.

If they don't have what you want already built, I assume it would take longer. Just give them a call or shoot them an email- they are great to deal with.
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Old 07-14-2007, 06:54 AM   #9
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Good info guys thanks.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:08 PM   #10
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JLadd,

If you don't want to wait for Fulton to build one, my local dealer has one in stock right now...I've checked it out and it's put together exceptionally well. Fit, finish, balance, are all top notch + I believe the barrel is marked "1/12 Chrome Bore" from what I recall.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=76030148

Cheers,

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Old 07-14-2007, 01:57 PM   #11
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For less than the price of either, you can DIY for a few bills less. Pick up a surplus Colt -A1 upper (CDNN had these NIW a year or so ago, they may still have them). I Pick up a new carrier and charge handle from pretty much any major manufacturer, and a forged A2 lower. The correct furniture (PG and buttstock) can be had from Sarco for around $30. You'll end up with essentially the same gun as Fulton's.
that is the route I went as well , except I bought mine like 2 years ago when they offered it with complete M16 bolt group and charging handle, , the upper was still sealed in a plastic bag with some grease, and a treated paper sleeve in the barrel.

as for the lower receiver, a A2 receiver will be just fine for a A1 look ....the only difference between a A1 and a A2 receiver is they "beefed" up the rear take down pin hole on the A2, other then that small detail, which is hardly noticiable,, they are virtually identical.

it cost me less then 500 dollars to assemble the thing into a M16A1 clone. the biggest cost was the upper, something like 350 or 370 bucks at the time I bought mine.
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:59 PM   #12
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You guy's got me thinking. Just what is an early Colt sp1 worth? You know a slickside with the 3 prong flashhider in mint condition. I'm just curious cause I got one in the safe right now.
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You guy's got me thinking. Just what is an early Colt sp1 worth? You know a slickside with the 3 prong flashhider in mint condition. I'm just curious cause I got one in the safe right now.
RORick, everyone knows those were the problem children of the AR-15s!

Send me $25 and I'll take it off your hands for you.

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Old 07-18-2007, 03:05 PM   #14
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You guy's got me thinking. Just what is an early Colt sp1 worth? You know a slickside with the 3 prong flashhider in mint condition. I'm just curious cause I got one in the safe right now.
You'd have no trouble getting over $1000 for it, probably more like $1200-1500 if it's pristine and you have the original box/paperwork. Look on Gunbroker.com at the auctions that get bids and see where the final sale price ended up.
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For less than the price of either, you can DIY for a few bills less. Pick up....
I did the same thing to build my own retro '15. I only have about $5-550 in the whole gun and I'll bet it shoots as well as Fulton's.
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:41 PM   #16
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There are a few SP-1s in my local gunshop right now, with a lot of miles on them, $700-$900. I love my Legacy rifle but these babies just begged for a new home!

I had to walk away quickly.
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Old 04-19-2017, 11:35 AM   #17
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For anyone considering an FAR 15 Legacy Rifle, don'the hesitate. Yep the price is up there, but worth it and the 8-10 weeks wait. I just got mine yesterday and took it to the range today. Performed flawlessly, except windage was off. Enjoyed correcting it. This rifle is a spitting image of the one I carried for a year in Viet Nam, and it did it's thing during the Battle of Hue. The only difference is that it doesn't have the third "Rock n Roll" position on the selector. This is a fifty years anniversary for this gun and me, and I couldn't be happier the job that Fulton Armory does.
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:57 AM   #18
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I should say NOT- having both been issued one and having one in my collection, these are a POS and should be stayed away from at all costs- if you MUST have one, do the diy bit or have it built for you with at least the 1/12 twist- 1/7 is better - ie an sp1 but up to current ar 15 standards- as to my opinion of fulton, well does snakes belly suffice?- they charge OUTLANDISH prices for a modular gun you can build yourself- I can do one over a weekend if need be- the one I was issued almost broke the firing pin sitting on the counter of ship's stores- yes it is as bad as all that- nothing more tragic that hearing a click when it's supposed to go pew pew- I I/ad and went to the 45 - which I knew worked- then when I got "home" I turned in that pos and got another- which I "lost " in a poker game to a arvn for his m14-
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:58 AM   #19
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the one I have in my collection has been brought up to at 15a2 standards- including the round handguards
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Old 04-20-2017, 08:00 AM   #20
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btw, now I shoot a TAVOR and couldn't be happier
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