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Old 11-01-2004, 01:04 PM   #1
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what is the best type of 7.62X39mm ammo?

hi guys,

i have two ammo related questions:

1) what is the BEST 7.62X39 ammo out there?

2) what is the BEST 7.62X39 ammo for your dollar?

i keep hereing how AK ammo is dirt cheap, but there seems to be alot of junk ammo out there. any ideas?

thanks!
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Old 11-01-2004, 01:17 PM   #2
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I've gotten 1" groups at 50yds (2" at 100yds) with my SKS using UMC and Winchester ammo--but the stuff is expensive, even at Wal-Mart. Expect to pay about $10 for 20 rounds. FMJ only, not suited for hunting.

For your dollar, I'd say the Wolf is the best. New stuff is non-corrosive and the laquer doesn't affect Commie guns. You can buy it in huge quantities at slightly less or significantly less than $2 a box depending on the quantity. However, my groups spread out by another 1" at 100yds. It's good for practice, plinking, and the 154g SPs are more than adequate for whitetail deer, once again 3" groups at 100yds.

All of these figures were done on a Yugo SKS with a decent (light wear and slightly pitted) barrel. I'm also out of practice, so you might not have any trouble doing better.

This website will give you more insight on the different types of ammo available:
http://www.simonov.net/ammuntion.htm
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Old 11-01-2004, 05:08 PM   #3
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I would stick with either WOLF (made at the TULA arms plant) or the ulyanovsk brand, made at the ulyanovsk (Lenin) machinery plant.......I have no idea who makes the SILVER BEAR brand of ammo........it could be one of the 2 mentioned plants, or so some other plant.

and I wouldn't take the words NON-CORROSIVE printed on the box as gospel........the rule of thumb I always go by, is treat all third world ammo, and military surplus as corrosive.......the only ammo I trust as being real non-corrosive is newly made commercial ammo made in the US. a ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
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Old 11-01-2004, 08:00 PM   #4
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I have 2,00 rounds of the Silver Bear Match 7.62x39 8M1 "effect"

124gr FMJs.. There pretty nice and cheap. Zink plated. accurate enough for my ak and sks. Surplus FMJ, HP, and SP's can be had at cheap prices. What Wolf for mass productiuon errors.. like Primers not fullyy seated. Dented cases. Deep bullets in the case.. Not deep enough in the case... things like this i have found in standard new production wolf FMJ's... but i would tilll buy it. Errors are about 1 out of 500 rnds.
 
Old 11-02-2004, 09:17 AM   #5
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I have no experience with soft point or hollow point 7.62x39 ammo. I have, however, used a lot of FMJ ammo. IMHO, the "best" 7.62x39 ammo available is the FMJ manufactured by Lapua (Finland). It's not easy to find in the USA.

The "best for the money" is a little more subjective. I like Ulyanovsk manufactured FMJ, and I've also had good results with Yugoslavian M67. Both shoot well in my rifles.

I have an unjustified aversion to the brightly colored "Wolf" and "Bear" and "Tiger" etc. ammo boxes. They look too commercial to me. Guess I'm getting old....
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:52 AM   #6
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I use both Wolf FMJ and the Silver Bear SP match in my AK and SKS without a problem. Wolf is the cheapest and I use it for informal plinking, bear is more accurate. I buy Wolf for less than 2.00 a box, silver bear is about a dollar a box more.
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Old 11-05-2004, 05:28 PM   #7
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I like the Wolf ammo myself for my 7.62 x 39mm SKS's and SAR-1 (AK wannabe). The Wolf is a bit dirty, but the commie guns are forgiving. The Wolf is (pun intended) the best bang for the buck for all around plinking at 8 cents a round. The stuff is everywhere too, and in many calibers. I wouldn't recommend shooting Wolf through an American thoroughbred such as an M1A or an AR-15.
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Old 11-05-2004, 06:02 PM   #8
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....treat all third world ammo, and military surplus as corrosive.......
Russia was second-world, dude

And back on track, I'll be picking up 1000rds of Wolf soon for my Yugo SKS. I wanted to get Yugo milsurp, but it's 150% more expensive than the Wolf, but the Yugo comes on stripper clips..and good Yugo stripper clips, not the cheap Chinese stuff you see everywhere Dang...$150 for 1140rds of Yugo? Seems a bit much for milsurp
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Old 11-05-2004, 06:26 PM   #9
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CowtownBallin, I haven't had any problems using the stripper clips that Cheaper Than Dirt sells. I think they are Chinese--but either way, they work fine in my Yugo. They come in 20s.

Only annoying thing was cleaning all of the packing grease off of them. Easy, but annoying.

I rather like Wolf ammo. Cheap'n'easy.
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Old 11-05-2004, 06:59 PM   #10
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Wolf ammo is fine. I use hollow point ammo you can get 1000 rounds for less than $100. reliable never a misfire. Buy it. But do it on National ammoday

http://www.ammoday.com/
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Old 11-06-2004, 07:10 PM   #11
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I dunno... the latest batch of Wolf I bought, with grey steel cases, groups about 5" at 100 yds. the 55gr 223 in my Mini-14 patterned at about 8". at 100 yds.
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Old 11-07-2004, 12:59 AM   #12
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dug thanks for reminding us about ammo day.


I for one almost forgot.
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Old 01-11-2005, 07:25 PM   #13
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I use Wolf, Ulyanovsk and Barnaul in my SKS and both AKs. no complaints. I really liked Norinco, but it's no longer available.

BTW, I think that "Silver Bear" is made by Barnaul. IMHO, Barnaul is ever so slightly superior to Wolf.
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Old 01-11-2005, 07:38 PM   #14
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Nice to see you here Cheygriz!!

Welcome to Amback !!
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Old 01-11-2005, 10:35 PM   #15
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i use wolf 122 fmj (we can hunt with semi's in pa). since christmas (when i got the russian sks) i put about 120 rounds thru it. cleaned it after every 40 rounds. i have a 30 clip with mine, and had no jams yet. the price i'm paying is 5 buxs per box, but i'm sure i could get it cheaper in bulk. my shots do wonder a bit, but i'm sure thats because of getting used to the rifle, since this is the first semi i have owned. the only thing i clean is the barrel. should i be cleaning the receiver as well shooting the wolf? i heard that the ammo made in russia fouls up the gas ports, true or not? any advice would be great. ty.
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Old 01-12-2005, 04:19 AM   #16
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cleaned it after every 40 rounds
You don't need to do it quite that often. Once after every range trip should sufice.

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5 buxs per box
You can get it for $2 on the internet.

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should i be cleaning the receiver
When the grease you use gets gunky, yes. You don't have to do it after every trip though. Also you should get a gas port cleaning tool. It scrapes the carbon out of the gas port.
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Old 01-12-2005, 04:43 AM   #17
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sksguy67, even per box price is about 2.00

try:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com

or http://www.cheaperthandirt.com

they have wolf for 2.00 or a 500 rds for 44.00
SP or FMJ

CTD charges a 3.00 handling fee for ammo SPG doesn't

good luck
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Old 01-13-2005, 02:50 PM   #18
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thanks for the info guys. i'll look at the links ya gave me for the ammo. i found a site that takes the sks apart in sections (with pics). is the gas chamber hard to take apart, it looks tuff in the pics.
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Old 01-14-2005, 09:59 AM   #19
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http://WWW.centerfiresystems.com has Wolf FMJ or HP 7.62x39 for 99.97 per 1000 shipped until Feb 11. SP is 109.97/1k. 223 in 55 or 62 gr. is 109.97 shipped. 5.45x39 HP is 109.97/1k shipped. 1-800-950-1231 to order. Sale ends 2-11-05. When's Ammo Day?
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Old 01-14-2005, 06:30 PM   #20
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The SILVER BEAR is made by Barnaul and is good stuff .

What's this CHEATAH garbage I see advertised ? Made in Zimbabwe ? No WAY !
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