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Old 10-23-2004, 03:46 PM   #1
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.30 Carbine with Speer 110grn HPs?

Does anyone have any experience reloading .30 Carbine with Speer 110 grn HPs like these?
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Old 10-23-2004, 04:11 PM   #2
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Yup I have loaded 200 of them last year.. verrrry accurate at 100yds 14.3gr 296 I have also loaded the 100gr Speer 30Cal Plinker bullets too.. same load.... decent results....
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Old 10-23-2004, 04:56 PM   #3
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Thanks for the information.

Yep, I saw the 100 grn plinkers but they are way more expensive than the Rainiers I've got. I thought that those 110 grn HPs would make for a nice dual purpose hunting / defense load. Was thinking of 15.0 grns H110 (max load), new brass, and Remmington primers.

Thoughts?
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Old 10-23-2004, 06:02 PM   #4
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I've never used H110 but it should work as I have seen others posting that they use it....
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Old 10-24-2004, 07:15 AM   #5
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I've loaded them with Win 296 with no problems. Can't say I did true accuracy testing, but feed and function was fine in a stock Underwood USGI carbine.
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Old 10-24-2004, 03:33 PM   #6
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I've never used H110 but it should work as I have seen others posting that they use it....
I've been told that H110 was originally a military powder used to load the .30 Carbine, but I don't know if that is true or not. I also understand from another forum that Hodgdon H110 and Winchester 296 are the same powder.
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Old 10-24-2004, 07:10 PM   #7
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I used that bullet when I was stationed in Minot ND on gophers and such. It worked VERY well on them. My Inland had a a little trouble feeding them everynow and then. I still have some loaded somewhere....

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Old 10-25-2004, 06:38 PM   #8
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I have several carbines and I've tried them. I seemed to have feeding problems with some of the carbines. In others, they functioned acceptably. All I can say is try them and see how your carbine likes them.
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Old 10-25-2004, 09:09 PM   #9
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A question for you guys that have loaded them. What OAL did you find worked best? With the lack of a rounded nose, I don't know which is best, load them long, medium, or short. Thoughts?
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Old 10-26-2004, 08:57 AM   #10
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The OAL's I use in my Carbines for the Speer 110HP's and the Speer 308 'Plinker' bullets are as follows:

Speer 110gr HP's 1.632"
Speer 308'Plinker" 1.680"
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Old 10-26-2004, 07:58 PM   #11
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Thanks for the information HighPowerShooter.
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Old 10-27-2004, 07:15 PM   #12
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I found the last 50 rounds of this ammo I reloaded in Mar 95 after I got back from Turkey. I used 13.0gr of AA#9, CCI 400 primer and WRA 52 brass. These rounds miked @ 1.656".

After reading HighPowerShooter's post, I think I am going to seat these a little deeper. Maybe it will help with the feeding problems? I never really had any problems with the Speer Plinker or Hornandy Short Jackets.

Hope this helps!

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Old 10-27-2004, 07:54 PM   #13
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Thanks to you too, Chili.
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:21 AM   #14
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Yes H110 and W296 are the same powder made by the same Manuf. However the military used WC820 powder in the carbine ammo it is a ball powder close to W296/H110 and can be loaded with the same data. The powder can be had for around 6-7 bucks a pound, it burns very clean and is the best magnum pistol powder I have ever used, great in 41mag,44mag, 357mag. I order mine from Jeff Bartlett at http://WWW.GIBRASS.COM, Pat Mcdonald also carries it at Patsreloading.com. 14.0 gns behind a 110gn fmj shoots real well in my carbine!
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Old 11-04-2004, 07:11 PM   #15
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WC 820 is my primary carbine powder. I have no problems with it. It is inexpensive and reliable. And I use H110 data with it.
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Old 11-06-2004, 01:04 PM   #16
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I used 14.5gr of Hodgdon LiL'Gun, CCI 450 primer and Remington brass. Loaded to AOL of 1.635". With the large amount of exposed lead and flat nose of the bullet it can be a problem getting these to feed in some carbines also try different mags as some will feed better than others.
Hodgdon LiL'Gun seems to work well for me in the M1 Carbine, can get close to H110 velocity with a lot less pressure. Have also tried the Hornady .30 cal. 90 gr. HP/XTP bullet (#31000) and it to may give you feeding problems the bullet is .100" shorter than the Speer.
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Old 11-13-2004, 08:44 PM   #17
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I use three powders and the point of impact is the same for H110 ans W296, I use 15 grains of either with the Speer Soft point. OAL 1.670/

I also use 2400 which is a heck of a powder 14 grains of this with the other particulars the same.
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Old 11-22-2004, 08:34 PM   #18
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I got some Speer .308 110grn HPs and tried them out. Good cycling in my carbine and very good accuracy at 100yds. I loaded mine at 1.655" OAL and they feed great.
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