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Old 05-27-2006, 06:32 PM   #1
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Info on the Russian ammo shortage

Came accross something interesting on the Russian ammo shortage. This explains the price hike on 7.62x39mm and 5.56x39mm in greater detail. There is also a hike on pistol ammo such as the 9x18 Makarov.

http://www.ammoman.com/AMMO_SHORTAGE.htm

I know this has been beaten to death, but any idea when will the Afgan army will have thier load of ammo so we can have our ammo back?
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Old 05-27-2006, 08:00 PM   #2
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My BS meter is going off on this. I don't buy into the "fear of a Democrat taking over" part. If Bush is so afraid of Hillary taking over in '08, why doesn't he fix the mess he created so the Republicans don't have to deal with cleaning up after him.

I think this may have more to do with making giving the Russians something to be happy about.
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Old 05-28-2006, 06:43 AM   #3
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I meant...

I think this may have more to do with giving the Russians something to be happy about.
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Old 05-28-2006, 07:20 AM   #4
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Uhhh.....isn't that 5.45x39, or 5.56x45?
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Old 05-28-2006, 09:24 AM   #5
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Uhhh.....isn't that 5.45x39, or 5.56x45?
No, 5.56x39mm, you get one of those when you breed an AK-47 and a M-16. It's like a Horse and a Donkey making a mule. I call it a AK-16.

I goofed, I really met 5.45x39mm, AK-74 stuff. Too many numbers, not enough fingers and toes to keep up with them!
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Old 05-28-2006, 12:52 PM   #6
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Got my 7.62x39 ordered. Will order more when the newer polymer coated stuff gets in.
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Old 06-11-2006, 07:59 PM   #7
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ammoman had a shipment come in just before Memorial Day weekend - FMJ and HP. It's sold out already.
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Old 06-12-2006, 07:10 AM   #8
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Cabelas and Sportsman's Guide are all advertising 7.62x39, as is Cheaper Than Dirt.
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Old 06-13-2006, 08:05 AM   #9
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JY: Before the 05/22 May article that set off your bs meter, there were accounts months ago that the Soviet government had directed that all small arms ammo production henceforth go to the state.

People can speculate as to why the State ordered that the commercial production go to the state. If you eliminate the "conspiracy theories" and tin hats, you are left with a command decision.

We have similar laws in this country that authorize the President to arrogate production of items to the US government.

When such power is exercised, you can imagine that there is a serious reason for doing so.

There is another dimension that we shooters avidly deny. There is a limited market for ammunition and a limited supply - substantially less than the market for smokes, beer, lube jobs. The days when a person could go to the corner hardware store (like me) and buy 100 rounds of ammo are gone forever. Walmart is ceasing sales at 1000 stores now. There are increasing restrictions on sale, storage. Rather than bemoaning the facts, act differently. Don't buy the next firearm without having the spare parts and ammo for the first one. That would be a first step.
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ather than bemoaning the facts, act differently. Don't buy the next firearm without having the spare parts and ammo for the first one. That would be a first step.

That's how I do my shopping.
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Old 06-13-2006, 02:59 PM   #11
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It probably took me many more years than Jamie to stop buying more firearms and to concentrate on magazines and quality, factory ammo.

I was fortunate that I was able to sell off the excess firearms and obtain quality factory ammo from a jobber that went out of business and quality factory mags for the important firearms from the sales.

The result is that I am comfortable with the amount of ammo, magazines and firearms. I have no undue anxiety about firearms being discontinued, parts becoming unobtainable, magazines being banned from future production or not having quality ammo when shtf.

It is not that I was smart, just lucky.

When Norinco was banned from selling firearms or ammunition in the United States, you were just lucky that the Russians were gearing up. Anything is possible.

You'll never know when you are smart to buy ahead of mags, firearms or ammo. Just remember that the purchases should balance out in the long run.
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I am kind of doing that right now. For most of the guns, I have the reloading equipment to back it up.

I am a brass whore. I get like almost a coffee can a visit to the gun range. I only shoot 100 rounds manybe of my own. I tumble, sort and store. Oneday I might have that gun, so I need the brass later.

Some calibers I can't save on reloading like the 7.62x39mm, 9mm, 5.56x39mm, 40 S&W, 7.62x54r, and others. I just buy it by the case and sit on it.

Once the shortage lightens up, I will stock up. This was a scare!
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